To: jonkai who wrote (34893 ) 9/10/2002 5:32:06 PM From: Doren Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182 you need to get out more..... if you mean a 933 is not much faster than 350 mhz for email, then you are right, and you are right for OSX or 9.X, either way, what in the world do you want with a pro machine if you are just doing this? just get an imac and don't worry about speed...... it is plenty fast for you.... I get out plenty... OK here's what I meant. I meant that when he runs OSX the desktop latency is way slow, every thing happens after a delay. For a guy like me who is constantly switching between apps, that gets a little disconcerting. The computer can get several actions behind what I'm currently doing so I have to stop and let it catch up to see if all the actions were successfully performed. Now to clarify, he hasn't tweaked OSX at all, he still uses the stupid genie effect and that sucks cycles, but even on my computer OS9 is quite a bit more responsive than OSX, which I've streamlined and repaired considerably. I'll agree that a 933 in pure rendering of say a QT movie is substantially faster than my 350. I won't agree that a dual 1GHz is substantially faster enough than a single 933 at rendering a Photoshop file, at least not the 2X performance that makes a new box worth buying.barefeats.com Granted some dual processor aware apps do run faster, particularly Apple apps like FCP, however many apps including dual processor aware apps hardly run faster at all from what I've seen. barefeats.com (FCP)barefeats.com (Multiple apps) I can't actually remember the page but I did read another article comparing Photoshop rendering on a dualie compared to a single processor G4 and although the dualie was faster the difference was not that great. So to sum it up, if I was crunching movies all the time, and making a bunch of money, a dualie would make sense. But for me, doing web work mostly, occasionally crunching small movies, a dualie which will only run OSX doesn't make sense. The 933 is JUST fast enough to make sense, if I tweak OSX to get rid of the nonsense and add stuff that helps me do what I need or use OS9. It seems barely 2X as fast. The bottom line here is OS9. They don't have to make the machine so it doesn't boot OS9. They are doing this to give 'incentive' to users to upgrade. I'm sure it will work for some, however for many locking out OS9 will be a disincentive to upgrade, and Apple will have to live with that or change the policy. And that may impact investors.