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To: Ilaine who wrote (43110)9/11/2002 3:33:56 AM
From: D. Long  Respond to of 281500
 
Nelson Mandela is a very courageous man but he's clearly out of his depth here.

That about sums Mandela up, unfortunately. I'm frequently disappointed in anything he has to say.

Derek



To: Ilaine who wrote (43110)9/11/2002 4:42:59 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
<Nelson Mandela is a very courageous man but he's clearly out of his depth here. >

CB, That's what he already told you! While you pointed out a bias he obviously has, you ignored the substance of his points, which were on the button [he obviously has read some of my posts pointing out the same things].

He's right that the United Nations should form the foundation of civilisation, but while it doesn't, it's obvious that the USA will play out the age-old empire game, just as their despised progenitor, Great Britain, did a couple of centuries ago. It's logical, not evil. Contrary to popular myth, being colonized isn't all bad. The joys of independence and 'freedom' mostly fall to the new rulers, like Mugabe, who get the girls and the money. The ordinary bloke gets the short end of the stick.

I wonder how long it'll be before American colonies have to fight their revolutionary war of independence from the overbearing USA [just as Paul Revere warned of the British coming and the founding heroes made the Declaration of Independence].

Will the USA people remember their own origins of freedom when their colonies kick over the traces?

So much for "The End of History". The big stuff is just beginning.

I vote for some USA colonisation. Or, me colonizing the USA, and the USA acting as my agent in colonizing other countries. We international capitalist pigs are like that! Or, maybe it's me who has been colonized. Either way, I'm okay with it.

Mqurice