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To: Neocon who wrote (296123)	9/12/2002 11:44:05 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

In one dose it gives a lift. At an other dose it gives a downer effect. A twofer. In some people, it is not addictive or a habit. It fulfills a need they perceive. Crutch is probable the best analogy.

To: Neocon who wrote (296123)	9/12/2002 1:21:15 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Re: "All of the data I have seen affirms that there is no consistent pattern with nicotine addiction." >>> Eh? What does that mean? You use it long enough, you become physically habituated to it's use, i.e.: addicted. Re: "As measured by withdrawal symptoms, it is obviously less addictive for most people." >>> Er, no one measures 'addiction' by this subjective measure... but it is often quantified by: 1) Recidivism rate (which puts nicotine in the same class as heroin and barbituates, but places it as more addictive than alcohol), or 2) by the quickness of the time it takes to become addicted (by this measure it would be called more addictive than alcohol but less addictive than opiates, and far less than amphetamines or barbituates which can produce addiction faster than opiates). 3) Addiction dangers are also often measured by risk of fatality during withdrawal... by which measure alcohol addiction is more dangerous than opiate addictions... and, obviously much more dangerous than nicotine withdrawals. RE: "When measured by recidivism rates, it is not so much addictive as a bad habit, like overeating." >>> Er, NOT! 90%+ failure rates are not so trivial. Only the MOST addictive substances have relapse rates this high. Re: "Sure, it has some psychoactive properties, but they are very mild and mostly good, giving one a "lift" >>> Er, define 'mild'... define 'good'. As you have used these terms they are subjective. >>> As far as 'giving a lift' (in other words: a mood change, a psychoactive effect), that is the primary reason any psychoactive compound is used... by man or beast.