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To: 4figureau who wrote (1350)9/12/2002 2:52:53 PM
From: russet  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 5423
 
The problem with Black Blade litany of comments is he/she is merely repeating the distortions parroted by the anti hedging community. Is there anything new in what he says? To blame a company for making more money and getting bigger than they otherwise would have been, is puzzling. With Barrick, you look to long term growth. With most other gold companies, you look for leverage of increasing profits to the gold price. Obviously the most leveraged companies to the gold price are the ones currently losing money or making minimal profits but possessing lots of real or potential economical resources, and they will definitely be the ones whose shareprice will increase the most in a rising gold environment,...companies like Kinross,...I like what they are doing today!! Unfortunately no one can predict where the price of gold is going tomorrow, let alone next week, next month, next year or before you or I die. If there is a specific argument from Blackblade you think we should discuss, point it out and we'll have at 'er, but I should point out the Barrick public statements archived on their website and in their financial statements refute most of the Blackblade comments. So if Barrick's comments are untrue, management will soon be doing the perp walk,...why would they risk it?

I'm not sure which point from the Mining web article you want me to see. There are a few points made, but they are not refuting the Dr Murenbeeld article, they are suggesting as I was, that the article is a very good dispassionate review of hedging as practiced by Barrick.

This comment by Miningweb is very interesting to me,..."As a consequence, it has been open season on hedged companies. Whilst much of the vitriol stems from retail investors, it has also been fuelled, amazingly, by some gold producer executives. They clearly have a vested interest in promoting their own stocks at the expense of others, but the net effect is detrimental to the industry and deliberately obscures the wealth created through hedging."

Miningweb then goes on to say "Disclosure: Miningweb has on various occasions solicited advertising from Barrick Gold Corporation. To date, Barrick has not advertised on Miningweb and has given no indication that it intends to do so.

Note: Miningweb is currently subject to an admitted blackmail campaign intended to shift its editorial policy to favour a single investment approach."


I don't know about you, but the fact that Barrick ignores Miningweb, but Miningweb suggests they are subject to a blackmail campaign from someone, indicated to me that the dark force subjecting them to blackmail is the anti hedging group comprised of Unhedged producers and/or antihedgers such as the Gata group. If true, then perhaps it is time to have a perp walk for them!

A few further comments,....

1) Is Barrick responsible for reduced prices, or is the past obsession of stockpiling the yellow metal by governments, central banks and others because of some human only perceived value of it, really to blame,...if those large above ground stockpiles weren't there in the first place, Barrick and others couldn't forward sell physical gold in significant quantities . The rest of the world's creatures seem to get along fine completely ignoring the yellow metal. Blame human folly, not Barrick.

2)Not all hedging involves the sale of gold. Some (indeed a large amount) is done with derivatives which does not involve the sale of physical.

3)Barrick is a much bigger company right now, because they did hedge. For Barrick, this was a smart thing to do.

4)and finally,...as I have said before, lots of companies lock in future prices and revenues for their products. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Why a gold company, and only a gold company is somehow a villain for doing so, when no other company is held in the same contempt is another human mystery.

The most important indicator to watch for the gold investor, is the current psychological condition of those who are, or who would invest in the metal and/or invest in the companies that produce it. The price of gold is directly and perfectly correlated with this human psychological indicator, and it is also a causal link. If humans decide to buy, the price will go up (gggggggggggggggg). No other measure is so perfectly correlated. When I start seeing squirrels and other animals wearing gold chains and other jewelry, I will revise the above statement (gggggggggggggg)