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To: LindyBill who wrote (43681)	9/13/2002 6:25:30 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks for the link, I see the original story is linked too newyorker.com When Abu Nidal committed "suicide", there were some other, alternative, stories floating around, coming from places like Berut. He was asked to train Al Qaida operatives in Northern Iraq, refused, and was executed. The Kurds definitely see to have had a tough time of it.. In the nineteen-seventies, the Iraqi Kurds allied themselves with the Shah of Iran in a territorial dispute with Iraq. America, the Shah's patron, once again became the Kurds' patron, too, supplying them with arms for a revolt against Baghdad. But a secret deal between the Iraqis and the Shah, arranged in 1975 by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, cut off the Kurds and brought about their instant collapse; for the Kurds, it was an ugly betrayal. and Attempts by Congress in 1988 to impose sanctions on Iraq were stifled by the Reagan and Bush The article documents the Kurds have suffered terribly in Northern Iraq. But yes, if Al Qaida are now in Northern Iraq, and there is any substance to the story, yes that would change things re: attack on Iraq. imho.

To: LindyBill who wrote (43681)	9/13/2002 8:47:34 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Why Can't the CIA Keep Up with the New Yorker? My impression is that it's well known that Al Qaeda and similar organizations have ties with Islamists in Northern Iraq who are tied in with the Iranians. Do a google search on "Ansar al-Islam." You'll turn up articles by the Christian Science Monitor, the Washington Times, CNN . . . The question is, what are we supposed to do about it? Bush stated in his speech to the UN that Iraq is sheltering Al Qaeda. However I believe it's not well nailed down that Saddam has any control over that area. It's in the No Fly zone, which is not under Saddam's control. Thus, tieing them to 9/11 would be a stretch. I expect that we'll clean them out eventually. But the CIA has a limited number of swarthy ethnic types who speak the local lingo, and they are doing other things right now, is my guess.