To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (191905 ) 9/13/2002 2:13:41 PM From: Dave Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258 Of course the sad thing is that conspiracies are prejudicially labelled "wacko" at all. The entire Internet bubble has been an era of vast and interconnected conspiracies. There are the obvious examples of Enron and Tyco and WorldCom, but consider Internet ad banner space. One Internet company's revenues were based on sales of banner ads to other Internet companies whose revenues were based on sales of banner ads to still more companies, including the first company. In the simplest example, two companies would conspire to sell each other ad space and then after writing checks to each other would declare the outflow one-time expenses but the inflow ongoing revenues. Voila, profits. Sorry, retail investor suckers. And of course there were conspiracies between the investment bankers and the analysts, to the enormous detriment of the investing public. Consortiums conspire to corner a commodity market. Bill Gates invests in a shipbuilder and suddenly the navy is equipping its fleet with Windows NT (earth to government: you don't want your nukes to crash, you just don't). The World Bank conspires with Bechtel to lobby the Colombian government to privatize Colombia's water supply and then charge for use of private wells, and legally prohibit the use of rainwater collectors, so that average Colombians pay 25% of their household incomes for water. Of course the Colombian public resists and gets its water back. But then when Bechtel sues Colombia for renegging on its water contract, to whose court do they turn for getting millions from Colombia's miniscule purse? The World Bank. Besides helping Saddam and Noriega to power (by the way you didn't hear a word from Rumsfeld when he was in Iraq WHILE Saddam was gassing the Kurds, did you?), Dubya's backers put bin Laden and the Taliban in power. Bush Senior's CIA armed and funded these scumbags and trained them in "anti" terrorism. When that backfired and these CIA-trained terrorists attack us, who in the world benefited? Was it the Taliban? Was it Saddam? Hardly. It was Dubya's backers. What a convenient coincidence (no, it doesn't mean that these conspirators planned the attack, but they certainly made such an attack possible, even probable). ChoicePoint, the company who admitted that they received $14 million to give Florida a bogus list of felons to prevent thousands of Floridian Democrats from voting, has been granted a very profitable contract to collect data about Americans "to fight terrorism." The military-industrial complex has been awash in money since the attacks. Christian fundamentalists are getting everything they want. [Dubya's family are no strangers to war profiteering. His grandfather Prescott made millions while on the board of a Nazi bank DURING World War II.] And on and on and on. The late twentieth century will long be remembered as a time of fraud, predation, and yes vast worldwide conspiracies. Dave