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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (191936)	9/13/2002 6:09:33 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Hi Skeeter Bug, Re: thank goodness saddam doesn't have that much power. That pretty much destroys the rest of your argument about how much of a threat Hussein poses. He's been meekly accepting the terror raining down on his air defense installations for the past 11 years without a single act of revenge. We've given him abundant justification to respond, but Hussein is not at all a suicidal madman. He knows that if he were to attack the U.S. directly that it would be the end of him and all the other Tikritis. So, from the evidence, he seems rational. As does GWB, in a very twisted way, attempting to propagandize a nation into a war frenzy, which will result in the U.S. military being used to supplant the Russians and French in business partnerships with the Iraqi regime for the Iraqi oil. Bush's plan appears to be to overthrow Huessein, install a puppet like we did in Afghanistan, void the existing Iraq contracts with non-U.S. oil companies and hand a windfall over to Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Unocal, etc. All neatly paid for by the bamboozled American taxpayer. Here's an excellent refutation of the miserably disingenuous speech that Bush delivered, deadpan, to the UN yesterday. The boys in the PEOC office must have been howling with glee at this tall tale. counterpunch.org

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (191936)	9/13/2002 6:16:34 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

let's turn the questino around: are you willing to give up everything you own to help the people of post-invasion iraq if it turns out he doesn't have a nuke?

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (191936)	9/13/2002 7:06:38 PM
From: benwood	Respond to of 436258

Hi Skeets, long time no see (here...). As I recall, there is a parallel between Iraq 1990 and now: Germany from end of WWI and WWII. They had many restrictions, and I remember seeing a photo of them sinking one of their own naval vessels that went beyond what they were allowed to have. Later, the built them anyway, ignored the previous agreements, and voila, it was a madhouse. In the last few decades, I don't believe that any country "got the bomb" without the world knowing (or thinking it knew) because of testing. However, I could be mistaken; in any event, somebody's bound to build one w/o prior testing for that element of surprise. --Ben