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To: stockman_scott who wrote (43856)	9/14/2002 4:26:02 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

OK Scott, that was one "Counterpunch" too many. Time to put you on Ignore. Derek

To: stockman_scott who wrote (43856)	9/14/2002 2:16:50 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"Counterpunch" or not, the facts are worthy of analysis, not dismissal. True commentary, even with (or especially with) those on this thread who accurately echo the party line: How many hundreds of times in the past year have you heard this tired excuse, mouthed as often by Democrats as Republicans to avoid serious debate? The speaker, generally self-righteous, always believes or at least pretends that he is supporting some policy vital to the fight against evil... The excuse to avoid debate is always the same: "gee, you read 'Counterpunch', or "you hate America". I heard the same in Israel in 1968 as a 17 yr old non-Jew wondering the world looking for answers. From both sides: One person in an argument would fail to produce facts or logic and sputter, "you're the same as the Arabs!" from the Jews, or "you're the same as the Jews!", from the Arabs. Abject failure in policy on both sides, with only the arms merchants and military as winners, and citizens as irrelevant victims. It is the same today in Israel, and the attempt is being made from the top down to turn America into a war-based society with no regard for human life. "Road to a Military Government"?? We're already there. Check the profits of the war profiteers, vs everyone else in the economy.