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To: Ilaine who wrote (44151)	9/15/2002 4:55:57 PM
From: MSI	Respond to of 281500

terrorists target civilians, freedom fighters target military and essential civilian infrastructure The better question is who gets killed and who escapes, or who pays and who benefits? The 911 attack hit the Pentagon as well as the financial center of the country, killing civilians. The retaliation in Afghanistan killed some undisclosed number of combatants and civilians, but hundreds or thousands of top-echelon enemy combatants were allowed an air corridor to Pakistan, for as-still-unexplained reasons. The result has been political and financial gains for some, and economic and political disaster for others. The word "target" has come to be a term of art and of propaganda. US citizens were the targets of our own JCS in Operation Northwoods, and are targets of "blowback" from what Brzezinski among others acknowledge as successful attempts to train terrorists. His blithe comment that "a few terrorists" were worth it compared to the fall of the USSR belies the fact that the USSR was considered economically and politically doomed. But worse it typically dismisses a million or so deaths as "worth it" in the minds of highly-placed strategists who are fascinated by playing geopolitical Nintendo with the lives of others. These sorts of facts lead to the cynical conclusion that "Dependent on DC" illustrates, that citizens are irrelevant to the process of government, but are primarily patsies fed deceptive data by self-interested government sources. One step towards a solution is to make it a felony for any official to use government money to be covertly used for media influence. ------------------------ 216.239.35.100 War on terrorism sinks deeper in the mire US intelligence officials and high-ranking military officers have told the highly respected investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, that thousands of regular Pakistani troops were indeed flown out of the besieged city of Kunduz in November 2001 to safety in a series of night-time airlifts that were directly approved by the Bush Administration. The United States officers also said that what was supposed to be a limited evacuation apparently slipped out of control and as an unintended consequence, an unknown number of Taliban and Al Qa'ida fighters succeeded in joining in the exodus. '"Dirt got through the screen," a senior US intelligence official told me' said Hersh. This is just part of a quite scandalous misleading of the worlds news media by the military and intelligence spin doctors in Washington and 'grandstanding' senior politicians in both the US and UK seeking to gain a little extra credibility by association with a 'victory'. Both Pakistan and Iran are double dealing The truth appears to be that the Pakistan Government, ISI and senior military figures connived to rescue as many Taliban as possible, to enable the remaining Al Qa'ida to escape and to cover up the part played by upto 10,000 regular Pakistan troops in the Taliban armed forces. In addition Iran, far from being a neutral in the Afghanistan campaign, remains a leading player in international terrorism and maintained close links with certain members of the Taliban regime. Iran was to provide the main escape route for thousands of Al Qa'ida fighters, many of whom are now safely back in Saudi Arabia or worse still in the occupied Gaza Strip, West bank or with Hezbollah in the Lebanon. It is also important to remember that many of Al Qa'ida's leading figures and the vast majority of those trained in Afghanistan evacuated the camps and scattered throughout the Middle East, Chenchnya, South East Asia and Europe before the September 11th attacks on the United States.