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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MSI who wrote (297013)	9/15/2002 9:45:44 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 769667

SHRUB AND SEN. SMITH SNUB PORTLAND CITIZENS Recently, the police rioted in Portland, OR when George Bush came to town to collect bribes for himself and Sen. Gordon Smith. These GHP enforcers made off with over $1,000,000 but saddled the City of Portland and its citizens with the bill for the riot which amounted to over $100,000. The City of Portland has requested that both Smith and his most excellent opponent (Bill Bradbury, our current Secretary of State and a darn good Democrat) reimburse the City for costs associated with political campaign stops, and in the case of the Republicans, shake downs of the local bidness establishment. Bradbury immediately agreed to pay all costs associated with his political efforts in Portland. Smith is waffling. He's hemming and hawing. He's really getting pissy about having any money taken out of his greasy, greedy little mitts. And Dubya is doing a noblesse oblige, "I deserve my place in life" routine. It's pretty disgraceful, and Smith is losing a lot of votes by being such an shameful example of greed run amok. Cheerio! Ray

To: MSI who wrote (297013)	9/15/2002 10:41:01 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

OPERATION 911 Revisited: Flight77 - The Pentagon Papers (over the truth) September 15, 2002 Some people believe that Flight 77 had to have hit the Pentagon because of the sheer number of witnesses there were around the Pentagon at the time. An explosion like that in broad daylight and at rush hour would have been visible to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of witnesses. Why then is it so hard to find anyone who actually saw it happen? If you critically thepowerhour.com (the same article is also here:http://richmond.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1706) examine the witness statements, you will see that extremely few people of those interviewed actually saw the full crash of Flight 77 (to be fair, here is a list criticalthrash.com of people who did see the crash and another here criticalthrash.com ; you will notice inconsistencies if you read them carefully). Some of those had obvious Pentagon connections, and some were probably planted by the conspirators. Some, after being told what the Official Story was, probably actually believed they saw Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. Something did cause the explosion. The size of a real Boeing 757 a188.g.akamaitech.net , and the odd dimensions of the Pentagon seattletimes.nwsource.com (note that the height of the plane, from the ground to the top of the tail, is over 44 feet, but the Pentagon is just over 71 feet high), make it easy to make a mistake, particularly if you already knew what the authorities (who of course never lie) said had happened. Actually, the huge number of potential witnesses compared to the tiny number who actually saw Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon is evidence that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon. I'd like to show the witnesses a picture of the hole in the Pentagon wall, the height of one floor of the building, and ask them how they thought Flight 77, over 44 feet high, managed to get through it (of course the height includes the undercarriage, but why did it leave no mark on the ground?).http://www.nnwd.org/stopp-krieg/bilder/bilder/010911pentagon.jpg The Boeing 757 is over 24 feet wide from wheel to wheel. How did it squeeze through the hole? If you consider the size of the plane and the size of the hole it is immediately apparent that it is not even close to being possible. Where are the wings? Where is the tail? Where is the damage to the wall where the wings and tail must have hit and been sheared off? Where is the damage to the ground? Then I'd like to show them a picture of a cruise missile fas.org and ask them if they thought that could have gone through the hole. Could a cruise missile, painted to look like it had windows and in American Airlines colors, be what they saw? Of course, no one would be allowed to ask such impertinent questions. posted 2:07 AM Source: xymphora.blogspot.com