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To: JohnM who wrote (44302)9/16/2002 10:56:17 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Oh, give me a break."

Hmmm... Well you have look back at Saddam's life...

Envious that his cousin `Adnan Khayrallah was able to attend school, Saddam in 1947 went to live with `Adnan's father, Khayrallah Tulfa, beginning his formal education that year at the advanced age of ten. Khayrallah had just finished serving a prison term for his minor role in a 1941 coup that was suppressed by the British. His imprisonment had a lasting impact on Saddam, who under Khayrallah's tutelage adopted strongly anti-imperialist and pro-Nazi Darwish sentiments. Khayrallah also may have profoundly influenced Saddam's violent ways: in the 1950s, they were arrested together for murdering one or two men, one possibly a relative. Under the Ba`th, Khayrrallah served as governor of Baghdad Province.

And you have to look at the foundations of Baathist thought through Michel Aflaq and the other founders of the ideology. They were very much influenced by Hitler and his Nazi party, just as Hitler was influenced by Stalin...

"It's worth filling in a little background on Saddam. This is no glorious anti-imperialist fighter. He heads the Baath Party, a group -wing elements in the army in 1951. It emerged in reaction to a huge rise of popular struggle led largely by the Iraqi Communist Party. Ideologically, Baathism drew directly on some aspects of Nazism."

greenleft.org.au

And the Baathists and Communists were in vicious conflict within Iraq, just as the Nazis and Communists had been in pre-war Germany:

"In 1958, a revolution led by reformers in the military overthrew the monarchy. King Faisal and his family were executed as they sought to flee to safety in neighbouring Iran. The aftermath of this revolution saw a brutal power struggle between the nationalist Ba’ath Party and its bitter rival, the Iraqi Communist Party. In 1959, Saddam Hussein was part of a small group that unsuccessfully attempted to assassinate the pro-communist Iraqi president, Abd al-Karim Qasim. Saddam fled to Egypt, but returned in 1963 after the Ba’ath Party finally ousted and killed Qasim, showing his dead body on live television in order to convince the Iraqi people that he was indeed overthrown. By this time, Saddam’s dedication to the party’s cause had attracted the favourable attention of its Syrian-born founder, Michel Aflaq, who named him leader of its civilian wing. He also cultivated his family connections with General Ahmad Hasan al-Bakr, a prominent military Ba’athist who seized power in 1968, in order to curry favour with the army commanders."

tv.cbc.ca

And DEFINITELY Arafat has been inspired by Hitler and Nazism. To the point where the head of Force 17, his personal bodyguard, Salim el-Mahri, named his children Eichman and Hitler, likely in honor of Arafat's Great Uncle, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who was very close to both Nazi leaders. He lived in exile in Nazi Germany, spending his time recruiting muslims for Nazi SS and advocating the extermination of all Jews.

ihr.org

"Josef Goebbels would have enthusiastically endorsed the frequent vilification of Jews in Arafat's controlled publications. Already in 1937 Goebbels praised the Arabs' "national and racial awareness," noting that "in Palestine they hoist Nazi flags and deck their homes with swastikas and portraits of Hitler."

Indeed, Arabs were among the first to latch onto Nazi ideology. Undisguised fascist parties proliferated -- from Syria's Nationalist Socialists headed by Anton Saada to Ahmed Hussein's Young Egypt. But the kingpin was revered Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini. His association with Nazi Germany predates his wartime activities in Berlin. His bloody uprising of 1936-39 was funded by Hitler and actively abetted by German Templars, resident here since the 19th century.

During WWII, mufti disciples hoarded arms and trained to assist Rommel's invading Afrika Korps. They harbored German paratroopers, engaged in espionage and disseminated Third Reich propaganda. They greeted each other with Nazi salutes, accompanied by loud Heil Hitlers.

Such salutes are still used in PA ceremonies. The PLO is a direct descendent of Husseini's forces, and its ongoing ties to neo-Nazis are amply documented. Suffice it to say that Mein Kampf tops the PA bestseller list, rivaled only by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

But perhaps speaking loudest are the names given to Arab newborns in 1942 to honor Rommel, who, it was hoped, would soon overrun the region and deliver its Jews into their enemies' hands.

Many Israelis knew Nablus antiquities dealer Abu-Rommel. He derived his moniker from the name he conferred upon his firstborn. Salim el-Mahri, for many years chief of Arafat's own Force 17, was called Abu-Hitler, since he named his eldest son after the fuehrer, and his second Eichmann."


And some other links for you to read:

afsi.org
moise.sefarad.org

Johm... for you to ignore the influence that National Socialism has played within the Arab world is to miss much of what underlies the ideological motivations of Saddam Hussein and other present and past Arab leaders.

And lest you misunderstand, I'm not claiming that Arabs worship Hitler and wish to resurrect the Third Reich, but only that they have find inspiration in his ideology, transferring Aryan superiority for Arab superiority. But they retain the same severe anti-semitic quest for a scapegoat that explains why they are in the economic and social predicament that they are.

They depend upon the same form of hateful propaganda that Hitler and Goebbels relied upon.. blood libels... anti-Jewish smears.. and outright hatred. All for the purpose of motivating and creating Arab unity against a common "enemy".

The only problem is that the "enemy" has nukes.. and lots of them... So Saddam has to go nuclear too.. in order to ratchet up the tension a few more notches and force Arab states in the region to align themselves with his regime.

Hawk



To: JohnM who wrote (44302)9/16/2002 11:32:14 AM
From: frankw1900  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Oh, give me a break.

Hell no.

abbc.com



To: JohnM who wrote (44302)9/16/2002 11:53:07 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
MEMRI does a good job in keeping track of instances where Arabic news outlets, especially official government news sources, repeat antisemitic propaganda taken directly from the Nazis.
memri.org