To: long-gone who wrote (89647 ) 9/16/2002 1:37:56 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 116767 Like i spoke about you Richard, "...unknowingly by you." (or) . Lets focus NOT on cause & effect as somewhere a folly saying exists to explain your ability, so lets focus on where Freedom to Think exist, as its not automatic like the breathe of air for survival, and has ability to dampen ones' existance of awareness, so let me quote Richnorth's post as a reply to you with your example attached. Please NOTE that my previous experience of combat duty for the United States will be volunteered by me to protect my land as a soldier once again, but this time my tour will be state side where i live once the 9/11 follow-ups occur that place all places inside the United States as targets of terrorist, that eventhought i use Richnorth's thoughts as where my thoughts are, being of honor truth and The American Way, its very possible for me to view myself on the "side" of Israel in that once the wars in the Middle East erupt into total Hell on Earth, and this not because i am of Jewish, as i am not being totally from Polish catholics upon which i never acquired but rejected all religions as concepts requiring faith in the unknowned, thus refused to obtain any. But once the 9/11 follow-up(s) happen, along with the Iraq invasion by the United States probably first, i will be put into the position that i will defend myself from deadly force from any life form no matter its whatever religion, sex or age, and thusly once Hell on Earth arrives via those crimes against humanity humans have taken against others, most likely in a hypothetical fire fight i would be inside a synagogue while Richnorth is inside a mosque as we both aim our rifles at each other eventhought we would rather aim a bottle of beer at each other for a toast of good lifes. From: Richnorth Boy, are you ever labouring under a grand delusion! ... others have not been able to counter my logic. ... they had to resort to low-down tactics of[example] [start.] Message from long-gone How dare you support the killing of US working men & women & speak of principle(s)! [stop.] ... what I said was too profound for you. Don't worry! You will get there! Maybe later than sooner. But you will get there. After all...