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To: SirRealist who wrote (44350)	9/16/2002 12:30:08 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 281500

Thanks for the quotes, Kevin. I was aware of very few of them. As for: So, yeah, a direct comparison with Islamists does not hold, as you say. But dismissing fundie televangelists words as 'general rhetoric' isn't quite right when their specific solutions are pretty extreme and promote a religious domination of all activities that is anti-everything-non-Christian. I think the direct comparison works in that both have no truck with the separation and religion and state. And, most important, because there are a great many varieties of Islamists, of which Al Q is a small but intensely violent sect. The comparison which works for me right now is that between militia types as Al Q and Falwell and Robertson as the more general Islamist type. But, having typed that, I keep seeing the multitude rather than the singularity. I need to keep reading Kepel until I can bring the multitude back down to a something I can type in a sentence of two.

To: SirRealist who wrote (44350)	9/16/2002 12:48:00 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Religious and Public Stations Battle for Share of Radio Dial nytimes.com [ Vaguely related, on the "liberal media" front, we have this nice little story ] The Rev. Don Wildmon, founding chairman of a mushrooming network of Christian radio stations, does not like National Public Radio. "He detests the news that the public gets through NPR and believes it is slanted from a distinctly liberal and secular perspective," said Patrick Vaughn, general counsel for Mr. Wildmon's American Family Radio. Here in Lake Charles, American Family Radio has silenced what its boss detests. It knocked two NPR affiliate stations off the local airwaves last year, transforming this southwest Louisiana community of 95,000 people into the most populous place in the country where "All Things Considered" cannot be heard. In place of that program — and "Morning Edition," "Car Talk" and a local Cajun program called "Bonjour Louisiana" — listeners now find "Home School Heartbeat," "The Phyllis Schlafly Report" and the conservative evangelical musings of Mr. Wildmon, whose network broadcasts from Tupelo, Miss. . . .

To: SirRealist who wrote (44350)	9/16/2002 2:04:08 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

So, yeah, a direct comparison with Islamists does not hold, as you say. But dismissing fundie televangelists words as 'general rhetoric' isn't quite right when their specific solutions are pretty extreme and promote a religious domination of all activities that is anti-everything-non-Christian. sr, certainly; we are talking about different contexts. Within the American political context, Robertson is extreme, and I for one certainly don't want to lend support to his reinterpretation of the Constitution. But to compare the Muslim Brotherhood or other Islamists, he would have to advocate a takeover of the US by Christian militias and a forced conversion of the population to Christianity. That is so far from what he proposes that the comparison is almost ridiculous.

To: SirRealist who wrote (44350)	9/16/2002 8:17:03 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

SR, it seems it is very difficult to get "a handle" on the number of people in the Falwell/Robertson groups...one place I saw was 1.7 million total.... Seems ALL religions must be shy as to broadcasting their numbers... If the Christian Right, as some call the group, is 1.7m or even 3million.... That would indicate small percentages to the entire population of the US. (see below) Some sites list the Catholic Church in the Christian group. Wonder how many people know that? In any event, I am unaware of any Christian religion that believes in imprisioning children of "political adversaries" (Iraq per Scott Ritter this week), beheading anyone (certainly without a trial), gassing civilians (Iraq), or sending jets into buildings killing thousands (AQ) etc etc etc... Thank you, America, for your participation in Census 2000. The population of the U.S. on April 1, 2000 was 281,421,906 (PDF). census.gov 8888888888888888888 academicinfo.net Various religions in the world academicinfo.net hirr.hartsem.edu hirr.hartsem.edu Buried in these sites are the numbers of some of the Christian denominations in the world....