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To: JohnM who wrote (44923)9/18/2002 10:37:39 AM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So, first point--Kepel and Lacquer [sic] disagree on the decline argument. We'll have to see how this one goes in the future. Though Lacquer needs to make his argument that it is not in decline. He does not do so in this review.

I don't read Laqueur's review--and his other writings--as you do. He describes the French post-9/11 debate concerning Kepel's failures, but does not specifically say that Islamism is on the upswing. Laqueur does suggest reasons for Kepel's intelligence failure, i.e., his cavalier attitude towards the cultural arguments made by scholars such as Lewis as well as Kepel's specific failure to keep up with AQ's broadly articulated plans, which were easily available for any discerning scholar to examine.

Read this excerpt of a review by Laqueur of Kepel's work and those of others:

bu.edu

Kepel may well be right in the long run. Having underrated the importance of political Islam for many years, some Western observers have belatedly accepted its important role and are again lagging behind events; they now attribute to Islamism an exaggerated importance even while it is in decline.

Laqueur, then, clearly does not necessarily disagree with Kepel, as you suggest. However, he does make the point in the review I linked that Kepel might be wrong on the decline issue because there are serious conditions in the Islamic world that are tantamount to "social dynamite", a point I don't think even Kepel would question. Laqueur said the following:

But there are social trends pointing in the opposite direction. Islamism is, broadly speaking, a movement of the urban and rural poor and of the lower middle class. These segments of the population in the Islamic world are suffering not only spiritually but materially as a result of economic stagnation; and there is a considerable amount of social dynamite.

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In brief, the decline of Islamism correctly analyzed by Kepel and others, while inevitable in the longer run, will probably take longer than they think to unfold.


Kepel's failures, in my view, take away a lot of his thunder. I am definitely not willing to accept him as gospel. While he may have accurately traced the history of modern Islamism, he seems to have failed in the broader predictive sense. His critical judgment seems to be weak. This failure makes me question his future work, though I will read his Jihad book for Islamism's pre-9/11 history, which no one has criticized.

I frankly find well-sourced journalists with a passion for the subject much more informative than scholars interested in publishing some grand scheme which is subject to immediate and sudden correction. Friedman--who is no academic slouch--in my view is probably the best interpreter of current ME events in the business.

As far as Laqueur is concerned, he is (or was) the chairman of the International Research Council at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He is definitely knowledgeable. Here's a link to an article he wrote for Foreign Affairs in 1996.

foreignpolicy2000.org

An interesting quote from the article, five years before 9/11.

All that leads well beyond terrorism as we have known it. New definitions and new terms may have to be developed for new realities, and intelligence services and policymakers must learn to discern the significant differences among terrorists' motivations, approaches, and aims. The Bible says that when the Old Testament hero Samson brought down the temple, burying himself along with the Philistines in the ruins, "the dead which he slew at his death were more than he slew in his life." The Samsons of a society have been relatively few in all ages. But with the new technologies and the changed nature of the world in which they operate, a handful of angry Samsons and disciples of apocalypse would suffice to cause havoc. Chances are that of 100 attempts at terrorist superviolence, 99 would fail. But the single successful one could claim many more victims, do more material damage, and unleash far greater panic than anything the world has yet experienced.’

Sounds like someone with very well-developed judgment.

C2@bythewayit'snick"lemann"not"leeman".com