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To: Ilaine who wrote (44990)9/18/2002 1:03:29 AM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi CobaltBlue; Status of Ready Reserve fleet as of June 5, 2002:

Civilian ship supports Operation Enduring Freedom
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The Ready Reserve Force is a fleet of 76 militarily useful ships maintained in reduced operating status by the Maritime Administration near potential load ports around the country. When activated, these civilian-crewed ships come under the operational control of the Navy's Military Sealift Command. Cornhusker State was activated last November to transport and provide floating storage for ammunition to sustain the war effort.
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Four other RRF ships are currently serving in MSC's Prepositioning Program, prepositioning equipment and supplies near Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and Guam in the western Pacific Ocean. These ships normally serve and were not activated specifically to support Operation Enduring Freedom. Tanker SS Chesapeake and break-bulk cargo ship SS Cape Jacob are stationed in Diego Garcia. Tanker SS Petersburg and crane ship SS Gopher State are stationed in Guam. Two other RRF ships -- aviation maintenance logistics ships SS Curtis and SS Wright -- are also part of the Prepositioning Program, but they are maintained in the U.S. in reduced operating status, ready to sail within five days.
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Re: "Does this mean that you accept allegations on the Marad website as the truth?"

This is getting sad. Adults should not have imaginary friends. What do you want, "webcam" shots of the RRF ships in their berths? Let's see who lives near Beaumont Texas and can saunter down to the docks and see what's there.

The whole concept that the US could secretly move eighty 65,000 ton ships filled with munitions back and forth to the Middle East without the newspapers noticing is silly. Instead, the newspapers make big deals out of single ships contracted. Why don't you sit down and think of a reason why the government uses contracted foreign ships for those small movements instead of activating the RRF.

I know, you think it's cause the RRF is already busy as hell, but the fact is that if they'd been busy as hell since when you guys started noticing the ship contracting six months ago. The program is is decades old and will return to its usual low profile after you realize that no war is going to happen. Instead, only a single RRF cargo ship was activated for the Afghan conflict, largely because there were no significant US ground troops.

This is just like those military exercises in Jordan that you guys were making a big deal about. The US has been having military exercises with various countries for at least a century and you never noticed it before because it was peacetime. Long after you go back to whatever you normally do, military exercises will continue.

Look at the facts. All you have to do to prove me wrong is go visit one of the locations specified here and look, LOL!!! What do you think, the government has big rubber copies to keep in there and fool the enemy? Do you think that the New York Times is supporting the US government by not reporting the facts? Do you think that you could earn a Pulitzer by reporting on the missing ships? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Of the other 72 ships, all except 15 are out-ported at commercial or government piers, where they can be quickly activated in time of emergency. Cape Mohican is layberthed in Alameda, Calif., ready to activate on five days' notice. The other 15 ships are RRF-10 or -20 day ships and are located at one of the three NDRF fleet sites -- James River, Va., Reserve Fleet; Beaumont, Texas, Reserve Fleet; Suisun Bay, Calif., Reserve Fleet.
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So where's your photograph of the empty berth?

I mean really, look at the triviality of this sort of thing:
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-- Carl