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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (6685)9/18/2002 1:13:19 PM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
us old fart vets of the last army of the streets will re-up

here's a poke for you <g>

derekgrout.com



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (6685)9/18/2002 5:35:00 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
ORGANIZE! OCTOBER 26 - MASSIVE ANTI-WAR RALLY

Re: and if that doesn't work, us old fart vets of the last army of the streets will re-up; some of the best times of my life.

internationalanswer.org



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (6685)9/19/2002 4:27:44 AM
From: jjkirk  Respond to of 89467
 
Iraq’s offer
Arab News Editorial 18 September 2002
arabnews.com

Iraq’s decision to back down over arms inspectors and allow them back on without
conditions will be regarded by many as a crafty move by a wily tactician intent on
by spinning out the process and throwing American strategy into difficulties.

Without doubt, that is precisely what was in Saddam Hussein’s mind. But equally,
there can be no doubt that he would not have moved even this far had it not
become blindingly clear that after the US decided to go down the UN route, the
international community had closed ranks behind it and was intent on passing a
UN ultimatum demanding the inspectors’ return. The Saudi announcement that it
would cooperate in any action approved by the United Nations further added to the
pressure on Baghdad. Saddam’s retreat is proof that he has at last become
convinced that he is now standing alone, truly and honestly alone, facing the
possibility of finding himself against the entire international community

But this is not the end of the story, merely the end of a chapter. Despite
comments by the Russian prime minister that Iraq’s climb down makes a UN
resolution unnecessary, Washington will still push for, and get, an ultimatum
spelling out a timetable and requiring Iraq’s total acquiescence. The fear is that
without such a resolution, Saddam will delay, procrastinate and give the arms
inspectors the general runaround as he did before. He will probably do that anyway
despite being confronted with an ultimatum; he cannot afford the inspectors to dig
too deeply. Even now it is unclear if his agreement to allow them back in “without
conditions” refers to them being permitted back as and when they want or, once
in, their being allowed to go where they want, whenever they want.

For Saddam, this seems to be the last chance. The international community is not
going to allow him any further twists and turns. The inspectors will pull out the first
minute they find their path impeded. That will then move the confrontation back to
brinkmanship, with the US again insisting on military action.

Yet for all this skeptical, but thoroughly realistic, view of what Iraq is going to do,
the fact remains that it has made a climb down. The ought to be grabbed by the
UN and turned back on Iraq. Rather than simply limit the argument to one about
arms inspectors, the UN should increase its demands on Iraq. There are many
other promises that Baghdad has not kept.

The international community’s opposition to unilateral action by the United States
did never mean an endorsement of Iraq’s refusal to deliver on the commitments it
made in the cease-fire agreement. These should be incorporated into any
resolution on Iraq. It should not just be about weapons of mass destruction; it
ought to take into account the interests of the Iraq people. If there are arms
inspections, why not also demand inspections of Iraqi prisons to see what is going
on there — and, maybe, find the missing Kuwaitis?

The Iraqi regime will, of course, resist such demands but at least the international
community will have put the wider moral case for change in Iraq — change that not
only removes a major threat to regional and international peace but also brings
freedom and security to Iraqis as well.