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To: Zardoz who wrote (89735)	9/18/2002 11:39:00 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116814

Well, it was a trick question. You cannot define something by another metaphor in fact. You are only modeling it again. So to say a lion is a beast does not define a lion. You can however define something by saying what it is not, if you contrast every other thing that it is not. This will take some time, or you can spring to the obvious conclusion that things are themselves and not what they are not. So to say a field is a boundary condition between dimensional boundaries is not a WHAT definition. WHAT definitions in fact are just attempts to compare things to sensory phenonomena of our limited human experience. Socratic ideals cannot be invoked as they are idea primitives of the mind and not real. Instead of analogues about fields, or attempts to compare them to abstract constructs such as dimensions that are not physical things, why not try to answer the simple question of: is space a thing itself that can be distorted? Perhaps space itself, once defined as an absence of any thing or matter, may not in fact be an absence at all. A field may just be a distortion of spacestuff. Just because space can be seemingly filled with matter or not filled, does not mean in fact that it is not a thing. It could in fact be some kind of energy or fabric of some kind and a field is just a local condition of its existence. This may sound like cheating. Force at a distance still seem to have to take place for fields to get going. Energy tractor beams must cross finite distance. Energy wells, of solid vortices, or radiant glow, cross dimensions. Perhaps the question should be asked, why does matter occupy space at all? No matter what, I have a problem with a magnet and steel. Obviously the magnetic fields only strongly affects iron and a limited number of metals. It pulls iron towards it. Now pray tell, how does it do that? Wherein do only iron atoms get hooked? A distortion of space where they are concerned alone ,,, is that likely? Inertial effects? LOCE seems to say no. I propagate a field into space, but how do I hitch it to a team? EC<:-} EC<:-}