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To: Don Green who wrote (34964)	9/19/2002 12:42:08 AM
From: Jeff Hayden	Respond to of 213177

Interesting. It looks like MS is trying to make the old all-in-one college dorm Mac into their new TV/PC box. That old Mac had a TV tuner built-in. The concept wasn't as popular as you might think it would be. When you used it as a TV in full screen, you couldn't use it as a computer to get your school work done. And when you used it as a computer, your roommate got pissed because he couldn't watch your TV. I wonder which paradigm will win out? PC as a TV? Or PC attached to a home entertainment network? Intel and MS obviously like the star network configuration where the PC is at the center of the star and it controls all, even becoming a TV. Apple, by implementing FireWire, have begun a bus network where all devices are connected to all other devices without a controlling machine directing audio/video traffic in the middle of it all. However, it is possible to connect the FireWire network into a star configuration with a Mac or PC in the middle, if one wants to. Anyway the PC/TV concept has been tried, it wasn't very popular.

To: Don Green who wrote (34964)	9/19/2002 4:44:19 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

>>The design will output video to a standard TV, and even cheap TV sets provide better pictures than much more expensive computer monitors.<< Don - The statement above is just wrong. I really wonder about some tech reporters. Computer monitors offer much better resolution than standard televisions. If they didn't, we'd all use TVs as monitors, wouldn't we? >>But using a separate TV defeats the space-saving idea.<< That's true. Overall, it sounds like Microsoft has an interesting idea there, but for 1,500 bucks with no monitor, it's hard to understand why the college student who wants a good entertainment system wouldn't just get a mini-stereo and a good TV for the same or less money. The Tivo-like PVR feature is a good idea, though. Apple could take this idea and really do it right. I'd like to see them do it. = Allen

To: Don Green who wrote (34964)	9/19/2002 12:23:41 PM
From: Dave	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

The design will output video to a standard TV, and even cheap TV sets provide better pictures than much more expensive computer monitors. This must have been a typo. That or the writer, Stephen Wildstrom, was busy experimenting with dangerous narcotics while the computer world was moving past 640x480 screens, onto 800x600, to 1024x768, to 1200x1024, and beyond. I'm writing this on a Titanium PowerBook connected to a 1600x1024 22" Apple Cinema Display. I could easily watch FOUR full-resolution TV screens on this, each with FAR better quality than the finest liquid plasma NTSC screen available for many times the cost of this display, and I'd still have room left over for the menu bar, the dock, a calculator, a nice game of Tetris, and some Sticky windows. Keep posting this mindless tripe, Don. Dave