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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (147802)9/19/2002 2:06:36 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
There is an article in the WSJ about EDS. This post on SI pretty much sums it up-
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Also there is something in thestreet.com where they say EDS has no exposure to the economy. ("at last the street tunes in to EDS" -or something like that). I am not a street.com subscriber so if anyone can summarize the article for me, I'd appreciate it.

Anyway, the net net is, EDS seems to be in many ways a financial services company and the loss reflects that partially- I don't know much about EDS... it is true they are experiencing weakness in core business as is everyone else but 0.60 decrease in earnings doesn't just "happen" like this unless you are playing with derivatives or something.

I guess all I can say about IT infrastructure from an investment standpoint is that this is the consolidation phase and unless you are sure somebody is a survivor they are going to continue to go down it seems, and even some survivors appear to be going down. But in software (the business I know)- we pretty much know who the app survivors are, and these companies are dirt cheap and buying back stock so I'm not too bothered holding it. We're talking about 4 remaining companies in app software so pricing pressure will return eventually. I have an open order for more siebel at 7.50 but no execution, yet. Just trying to build a position in that one. If I had to short somebody here it would be BMC or CA.

Hardware another story, I think these big systems houses might be in for more consolidation? IBM, HPQ, EDS, and I include Sunw in the list.

BTW the oracle call wasn't as bad as the hpq call. They did say US business is stabilizing and apps business coming on. I suspect thats why psft,sebl,sap didn't crash they just sortof trended with the mkt. But europe is terrible apparently.
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