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To: reaper who wrote (192832)9/19/2002 3:04:46 PM
From: marginmike  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 436258
 
ANy thoughts on HDI, I am hearing they have some securitization risks, as well as slowing biz. Thats gotta be a short and hold as Motorcycles become extinct. Do you follow any good pleasure craft companies? they will get smoked in a consumer based recession.



To: reaper who wrote (192832)9/19/2002 3:07:14 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Respond to of 436258
 
>Remind me again how much he put into LVLT? it seems to me that it wouldn't be worth his time to even take a call from ACF if the investment opportunity is only $100mm.<

He put exactly 100M into LVLT.

There's another connection too. Bill Miller (another value guy) is heavily involved with LVLT. He was part of that 500M perferred at LVLT. I believe Bill Miller (or the same firm at least) is heavily long ACF too.

For the record, I am long a bit of ACF. I was longer, but sold some in last rally.

That's why I am speculating on the solution to their problem. THis is the only thing I could come up with.



To: reaper who wrote (192832)9/19/2002 4:03:05 PM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Reaper,

Do you have a link to any articles that present the bearish case about ACF? I enjoy reading as much on both sides as possible. THanks.