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To: JohnM who wrote (45372)9/19/2002 5:50:04 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
No, c2, I didn't say you were wrong for including Emerson.

Whatever. My eyes must be deceiving me.

There was much wrong with placing the Emerson alongside the Kepel as you did and arguing that Emerson refutes Kepel

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As for Islamism in the first world, hard to know exactly what you mean. He has an interested bloc of material on their quite explicit attempt to gain control of the Muslim community in Bosnia in the early to middle 90s and the clear defeat they suffered there.

Then you and Kepel are both terribly misinformed, and I don't think he is anymore, certainly not after 9/11.

Firstly, Bosnia is not the First World. But if that is the extent of Kepel's discussion of the alleged wane of Islamism in the mid-90s as it relates to the First World, then he missed a huge part of the story, including one brewing under his nose in France. I can't imagine that he made such an egregious error, but I've seen other evidence that his factual research was not top-notch, so I guess it's possible.

In point of fact, Islamism's growth in the mid90's was enormous in Europe and the First World. It did not wane at all. Alienation was and is the key to this aspect of Muslim radicalization. Have you not read the materials on the 9/11 bombers describing the process through which they became radicalized, mostly in Germany?

I could link all sorts of material to establish the point, but you only skim, then spin, so I'm not going to bother. Look for it yourself, if you're interested.