To: michael97123 who wrote (51762 ) 9/22/2002 6:55:14 PM From: Charles Tutt Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865 He also asked me directly, and I responded, so you might want to look at that response. I believe Microsoft spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year on advertising in an attempt to convince people that they offer a viable enterprise alternative, and some will be convinced by the media barrage. Personally, I don't think they actually do offer an acceptable alternative away from personal desktops, and probably never will. I know that I spend a huge amount of time just trying to keep my and my daughter's Windows desktops running and at the current patch level; I can hardly imagine the amount of work involved in doing the same for hundreds or thousands of desktops. More to the point, I can't imagine keeping a Windows based system running a significant workload 24 X 7 for any significant length of time. I know my experience is not unique, because friends and other family members also have problems with their Wintel systems. Windows is B.A.D. -- Broken As Designed. NT and the newer variants probably aren't as bad as the earlier incarnations, but I think the corporate culture at Microsoft mandates a one-person-one-PC focus with a flashy look and lots of "features," with reliability taking a subordinate role, despite their well-publicized new focus on security. Compare the slogans as a first order indicator of where the emphasis lies -- Personal Computing (on the one hand) vs. The Network Is the Computer (on the other hand). Furthermore, Linux (and Sun) are going on the offensive and moving the battlefront back to the desktop, which is the opposite direction to what Microsoft would like to see. All JMHO. Charles Tutt (SM)