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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (6989)9/21/2002 3:38:18 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Bush isn't thinking ahead
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By David Lazarus
San Francisco Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, September 20, 2002

The looming war with Iraq finally has an official price tag. Lawrence Lindsey, President Bush's chief economic adviser, estimated this week that the conflict would cost U.S. taxpayers between $100 billion and $200 billion.

Yet there was Bush, in a speech to Iowa factory workers the other day, lecturing Congress on the perils of profligate spending. "If you overspend," he said, "it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic growth."

Peter Duignan, senior fellow emeritus at Stanford's Hoover Institution, can only shake his head at the growing contradiction between the president's words and his impending deeds.

"This man just doesn't understand the unforeseen consequences of acts," he said of a clash with Iraq. "No one has realistically costed this out. It hasn't been thought through."

While the White House may have a sense of how much a military strike on Baghdad might cost, Duignan and other academics say virtually no attention has been paid to the economic aftermath of a war in the Middle East.

Duignan is a historian who has done extensive work on the Marshall Plan, which provided $13 billion ($220 billion in today's dollars) to a cash-starved Europe after World War II.

He points out that while postwar Europe needed to rebuild infrastructure, there were plenty of highly skilled, well-educated Europeans on hand ready to get the job done.

"With the Marshall Plan, you didn't have to train doctors and lawyers and nurses," Duignan said. "They already had them. You focused instead on rebuilding hospitals and railways."

That won't be the case in Iraq. If Bush's goals are successful, the entire Iraqi government will be eliminated. In so doing, it's probable that much of the nation's infrastructure will be reduced to debris.

Newly installed leaders will likely find their fate linked to the speed with which Iraq's agricultural, transportation, communications, financial and health care sectors can be rebuilt and modernized.

Moreover, the Iraqi people, many of whom have little experience with modern society, will need to be shown how to tend to their new-and-improved resources for themselves.

They will have to accomplish this without allowing centuries of ethnic animosity and tribal blood feuds to get in the way (as is already the case in Afghanistan).

A tall order? You bet, and, as in Afghanistan, the United States will almost certainly be the key player overseeing Iraq's reconstruction.

It will not be cheap.

I've already written about the potential impact of a war with Iraq on world oil prices. Analysts say the price for a barrel of oil could soar from $30 today to more than $50, especially if Saudi and Kuwaiti oil fields are pulled into the fray.

"For a sluggish, slow-growing U.S. economy, this type of shock would be enough to dip back into recession," Morgan Stanley's chief economist, Stephen Roach, told a recent conference in Madrid.

But what about all the other costs associated with rebuilding a war-ravaged Iraq? The White House's military budget of up to $200 billion doesn't address these matters.

Most experts I've spoken with place the initial cost of reconstructing Iraq's infrastructure at about $50 billion, a portion of which would eventually come from Iraq's own oil reserves.

However, this does not include such ancillary expenses as training the populace to use modern technologies and maintaining a peacekeeping force in the country for an open-ended duration.

"We're opening ourselves up to about $20 billion a year in Iraqi reconstruction for the foreseeable future," said Brad DeLong, a professor of economics at UC Berkeley.

"This is why George H.W. Bush didn't go into Iraq," he said. "He didn't want to be proconsul for developing Iraq and looking after its well-being for the next few decades. It's why Clinton bugged out of Somalia. You don't want to be nation-building for people who don't want their nations built."

While DeLong said paying Iraq $20 billion a year "is not an overwhelming burden" to the vast U.S. economy, it's still worth asking where all this money will come from.

The United States is expected to run a deficit of $157 billion this year, and, according to the Congressional Budget Office, will remain in the red until Bush's $1.3 trillion tax cut expires in 2010.

Meanwhile, the Brookings Institution estimates that America is still spending as much as $2 billion a month in Afghanistan, and there's no end in sight to that commitment.

"We have terrible budgetary problems," said David Romer, a UC Berkeley economics professor. "That means we have to be cautious about spending."

The president apparently agrees.

"They have no plan to balance the budget, and that's a concern," he said this week of the Senate. "It's a concern because if you have no budget, it means there's no discipline. And if there's no discipline, it's more than likely that the Senate will overspend."

A prudent philosophy. If only Bush would practice what he preaches.

sfgate.com



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (6989)9/21/2002 8:42:41 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Saudis Withdraw Tens Of Billions From The US

By Roula Khalaf in London
Financial Times
8-20-02

Disgruntled Saudis have pulled tens of billions of dollars out of the US, signalling a deep alienation from America.

One analyst said the total funds withdrawn by individual investors amount to $200bn. Other bankers put the figure nearer to $100bn.

The US-Saudi alliance was put under severe strain after September 11, when 15 of the aeroplanes' 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals.

Accusations that Saudi Arabia's austere brand of Islam breeds terrorism and its charities finance Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network have been perceived in the kingdom as attacks on Saudi society and its religion.

An analyst from the Rand Corporation said at a Pentagon briefing this month that Saudi Arabia was the "kernel of evil", exacerbating concerns among the country's elite that they have become demonised in the US and their money is no longer safe there.

As part of the fight against terrorism, the US and Saudi authorities have been monitoring the accounts of dozens of Saudi companies and individuals, a move that alarmed Saudi merchants. Youssef Ibrahim, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations working on a project re-examining US-Saudi relations, said Saudis had withdrawn at least $200bn from the US in recent months. He said the move has been driven by hawkish US commentators' calls for the freezing of Saudi assets.

The trend, he added, can be expected to accelerate with last week's trillion-dollar lawsuit by relative of the victims of September 11. The lawsuit accuses several Saudi institutions and charities and three members of the royal family, including the defence minister, of financing terrorism.

Details of Saudi investments in the US are sketchy but financial analysts believe they range between $400bn and $600bn. The funds are invested in private equity, the stock and bond markets and real estate. The figures include investments by members of the royal family.

Investors are not thought to be closing down their US accounts. Instead they are moving money into European accounts. Bankers in London said the largest established Saudi investors did not yet seem to be following the trend.

One said: "I'm sceptical about a mass exodus. But there was a lot of Saudi money with American banks that was not diversified, now they [the Saudis] are spreading their wings. Perhaps 30 per cent to 50 per cent of the money that was with US banks is seeking diversification."

The Saudi money shifts may have contributed to the recent downward pressure on the dollar.

"People no longer have any confidence in the US economy or in US foreign policy," said Bishr Bakheet, a financial consultant in Riyadh.

"And if the latest lawsuit is not thrown out in court, it will mean no more Saudi money in the US."

rense.com



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (6989)9/22/2002 10:53:06 AM
From: SOROS  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
<font color=red>POWER WILL SHIFT FROM USA TO EUROPEAN UNION VERY QUICKLY</font>

So many things are threats to the US economy now, but think about it in terms of prophecy. Many have always questioned and scoffed that there is no way for the USA to decline and the EU to rise to power very quickly. Most say it would takes decades. But what if the USA was so crippled economically that she had to either assimilate into the EU or transfer military power to them or many other scenarios to accomplish this rise and fall of power in the world?

Here is a quote from a post in my prophecy thread. Are these figures accurate?

"The biggest threat showed itself in the last couple of weeks when some members of the Saudi family pulled over $200 billion out of U.S. stocks and bonds and reinvested it in the European Union. This immediately caused the Euro dollar to rise against the U.S. dollar.

Altogether, the Saudi royal family controls at least $600 billion in U.S. stocks and bonds. Some estimates indicate that they control as much $1 trillion. Factor in the fact that the entire U.S. stock market is worth about $3 trillion. Now just imagine what an impact it would have on the U.S. economy if all Saudi investments were pulled out of the U.S. and invested in the European Union. It would literally destroy the U.S. economy. It would shift the power and leadership of the West to Europe overnight.

Is such a thing possible? Absolutely! The Saudis reached new heights of anger over some U.S. government officials calling them things like "a center of evil" and "supporters of Islamic terrorism." Never mind that it appears to be true.

One of the most important factors I see in all of this is that Bible prophecy indicates that the political power of the West will be in Europe during the climactic events of the "last days." We are in that general time right now, so such possibilities as I have mentioned above are well within the scope of probability.

Almost all of the other signs the prophets said to look for in the days just before the return of Jesus Christ are already here. So it's time to be prepared for some shocking events in the near future."

I remain,

SOROS



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (6989)9/22/2002 9:52:40 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Amid the Uncertainty, Business Balks at Spending

By RICHARD W. STEVENSON and DAVID LEONHARDT
The New York Times
9/22/02

Investors are getting creamed on Wall Street. Consumers are nervous. New jobs are scarce. Japan, the world's No. 2 economy, is stuck in a deflationary bog and Europe remains lackluster, providing scant hope for exporters.

But more than anything else, the course of the American economy this year and into the next rests with corporate managers like Calvin A. Campbell Jr., chairman of the Goodman Equipment Corporation, a locomotive maker in Bedford Park, Ill.

At a time when corporate earnings are dismal across the country, Mr. Campbell and his counterparts in all kinds of industries face risks that extend from the ripple effects of a possible war with Iraq to an uproar from shareholders demanding new standards of corporate governance.

The choices they make in that difficult and uncertain environment about fresh investments in factories, computers, telecommunications equipment and other capital goods will go a long way toward determining whether the United States continues limping along at a modest rate of growth or restores itself to robust economic health.

"From the perspective of the economy, uncertainty is the enemy of growth," said Richard Berner, chief United States economist at Morgan Stanley. "What you see in the marketplace is a high degree of risk aversion."

Mr. Campbell, for one, is certainly cautious. He is waiting until he gets a clearer sense of demand from customers before investing in new cranes, computer software and other equipment. And right now, the mining companies that pay up to $400,000 for his locomotives remain reluctant to spend and are paying off previous purchases more slowly. "If people can delay, they delay," Mr. Campbell said. "There's a lot of caution, a lot of pessimism."

Mr. Campbell's experience is common. After recovering slowly for much of this year, capital spending now appears to be weakening. If that trend continues, the economy will have to muddle along on the backs of consumers who, despite their jitters, have proved willing to keep spending. Without a rebound in business investment, economists say, the economy is unlikely to rebound sharply. But many corporate executives, seeing a lot of dark clouds on the horizon, are in wait-and-see mode.

"If you're a corporate executive in this environment, you face a higher level of uncertainty — and more sources of uncertainty — than you have in your career," said Robert D. Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International.

"You face the uncertainty about additional acts of terrorism," he said. "You face the uncertainty about a war with Iraq, with all the implications that holds for energy prices and a broad impact on the economy. You face a greater degree of scrutiny of corporate governance, which makes people more cautious in how they run their companies. And then you face all the questions about where the economy is going."

The effects are showing. After picking up somewhat over the summer, the economy appears to be slowing again. The manufacturing sector stopped growing in July and August, according to a survey of managers by the Institute for Supply Management. And 3.6 million people received unemployment benefits in the first week of September, the highest number since June, according to the Labor Department.

There are pockets of strength. Low interest rates have fueled strong automobile sales and have set off waves of mortgage refinancings, putting more cash into the hands of consumers and keeping housing and related industries vibrant.

But there are also plenty of reasons for continued concern. At the top of the list is the stock market's slide, which destroyed nearly $420 billion of wealth last week alone. The decline is hurting companies' ability to raise money and is forcing individual investors to rethink everything from next year's vacation plans to their retirement timetables.

Companies are also struggling to maintain profit margins, let alone raise prices. Occupancy rates at the Loews Hotels chain, for example, have returned to levels reached before Sept. 11, 2001. But with travelers more worried about costs than they were a few months ago, Loews is selling more discounted rooms than it did in the past.

"We were definitely seeing cautious optimism prior to a month ago," said Charlotte St. Martin, the company's executive vice president for marketing. "We have seen a bit of a slowdown."

Even companies with healthy profit increases do not credit the domestic economy. On Thursday, FedEx said operating income in its most recent quarter rose 20 percent, versus a year earlier, but cited overseas business and a cost-cutting program as two of the main reasons. FedEx has cut capital spending and revamped operations to use fewer workers.

"We're cautiously optimistic" about the rest of the year, said Michael Glenn, executive vice president for market development, offering the closest thing to exuberance in corporate America today.

Now, with President Bush having made clear his intention to confront Saddam Hussein through military force if necessary, government officials, economists and executives are adding unsettling factors to their economic and financial planning.

One school of thought holds that the economy would benefit from a war, because government spending on the military and domestic security would surge, giving the economy a fiscal jolt to go along with the one being delivered by the tax cuts Mr. Bush signed into law last year.

But there is a broader consensus that a war, assuming that it goes well and remains restricted to Iraq, would be neutral or even negative for the economy.

From the White House to the Federal Reserve to corporate headquarters across the country, there is general agreement that a war could affect the economy through four main channels: a sharp rise in oil prices, a further steep fall in the stock market, a decline in consumer confidence and a surge in the federal budget deficit.

For now, the official line from Washington asserts that any war will not have to be a major economic event.

Although Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 and the American military action the next year helped send the economy into a mild recession, federal officials say there is no reason to assume that the same thing will happen this time. Since then, the economy has changed.

As Alan Greenspan, the Fed chairman, told Congress this month, the United States uses less oil relative to total economic output than it used to. As a result, the economy is less susceptible to an oil price spike if Middle East supplies are disrupted.

Mr. Greenspan acknowledged that previous recessions had been preceded by run-ups in oil prices, but he said that there was little reason to think the pattern would repeat, especially if a war is no longer than the conflict in 1990-91. "I don't think the effect of oil as it stands at this particular stage is large enough to impact the economy unless the hostilities are prolonged," he said.

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Other analysts differ, however. Should the war spread to Saudi Arabia or become regionwide, oil prices could easily rise above $40 a barrel from their current range of $25 to $30. Such an increase, they say, would affect both businesses and consumers in the United States and around the world.

In a country of S.U.V. drivers, an oil price shock accompanied by 24-hour coverage of hostilities in Iraq could be enough to put a crack in consumer confidence and weaken what has been the main pillar of the recovery so far: consumer spending.

For now, consumers remain remarkably resilient. L. Douglas Lee of Economics From Washington, a consulting firm, noted that with wages rising at an annual rate of 4 percent and inflation at less than 2.5 percent, real incomes are growing for most people. The combination of rising income and the 2001 tax cut has allowed many people to keep spending while increasing their savings.

"The consumer is in pretty good shape, unless you think the labor market is falling apart," he said.

Some analysts, though by no means all, think it is. In a report to clients last week, John Youngdahl, an economist at Goldman Sachs, warned of "accumulating evidence that business firms have begun another round of labor restructuring and cutbacks, in response to earnings disappointments and a further tightening of broad financial conditions over the summer."

On Tuesday, for example, the Charles Schwab Corporation said it would dismiss about 1,800 employees over the next two months. Schwab had already eliminated about 7,000 jobs, more than one-quarter of its work force, since early 2001. This month, Lucent Technologies announced that its sales were even weaker than forecast, and analysts said the company might have thousands more layoffs in coming months.

Aside from the apparent increase in layoffs, Mr. Youngdahl said, "there continue to be statistical signs that job creation is abysmally weak, and thus the reabsorption of unemployed persons into the work force is difficult."

Consumers would also be hurt, financially and psychologically, by a continued drop in stock prices. Although many analysts say investors will probably remain nervous as long as there is talk of war, military success could bring a quick-relief market rally. "Uncertainty is bad for markets," Mr. Lee said. "But there's an adage that says, `Sell the rumor and buy the bullets.' It's often been proved true in the past."

A war could also influence markets by raising the federal budget deficit, which is already expanding faster than Congress or the administration anticipated a few months ago.

White House officials say they have not budgeted any particular amount for a war. In any case, they say, the United States can afford it.

Mitchell E. Daniels Jr., the director of the White House's Office of Management and Budget, said one cost estimate floated earlier by the administration — of a maximum of $100 billion to $200 billion — was almost certainly too high.

He said the only guideline was the Persian Gulf war in 1991, which cost $60 billion, or about $80 billion in today's dollars. Four-fifths of the cost was paid by the allies.

At those levels, war spending would amount to less than 1 percent of gross domestic product, not enough for major economic effect.

It would, however, be enough to make a substantial if presumably one-time difference in the budget deficit, which is projected to total $165 billion for the fiscal year that ends on Sept. 30.

The uncertainties related to a war, economists said, must be viewed against the backdrop of an economy already struggling past excesses of the bubble economy of the late 1990's.

The full array of uncertainty is clearly visible to Mr. Campbell of Goodman Equipment. On Thursday, he attended a lunch at an executives' club in downtown Chicago, where candidates running for governor in Illinois had come to speak. The discussion at his table quickly turned to the stock market, and a few of his peers wondered if the Dow Jones industrial average would return to its previous peak in the next 10 or even 20 years.

A few weeks ago, after Mr. Campbell had used the word "fair" to describe the state of his business, he recalled that another executive said to him, "That's the most optimistic word I've heard in a long time."

Hearing that kind of pessimism, Mr. Campbell says he wants to see four or five months of good economic news before he begins investing large amounts of Goodman's money. Every time people have begun to become more optimistic over the last year or so, he said, a new reason for worry has sprung up, be it terrorism, corporate scandal or, most recently, the possibility of war.

"People gained confidence," he said, referring to this spring, "and now they've lost it."

He added, "If we do go to war, I think it's going to set us back from an economic standpoint."

Like Mr. Campbell at Goodman, many manufacturing executives, who depend on capital spending for profits, are trying to sort through the news from Wall Street and Washington as they set budgets for 2003.

"It's the most indeterminable economy I've ever lived in," said Tony Raimondo, chief executive of Behlen Manufacturing, in Columbus, Neb., which makes metal buildings and grain dryers. "One month, it's up and you're a little excited. The next month, it's as bad as it's been."

Behlen's consumer business, which sells farming equipment that typically costs a few hundred dollars, is thriving. The division that builds factories and other structures is struggling, though it has picked up compared with last year. In a good month, he said, the unit will sell $3.5 million of products. Last year, it sold just $2 million of goods in some months. Now, sales have improved to just above $2.5 million.

But that has not made Mr. Raimondo confident enough to proceed with a plan to expand a factory in the Northwest. "I wish I could tell you," he said with a sigh, that "we're not part of the problem."

nytimes.com



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (6989)9/22/2002 10:26:51 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
War Fever Pushes Oil to 19-Month Peak

By Andrew Mitchell
Sunday September 22, 9:58 pm ET

OSAKA, Japan (Reuters) - War fever drove U.S. oil prices to a new 19-month high on Monday as dealers took fright at the growing threat of a U.S. assault on Iraq.
U.S. crude futures in electronic trade by 8:35 p.m. EDT Sunday jumped 61 cents to $30.45 a barrel after setting a high of $30.48.

Dealers said Baghdad's decision to reject any new U.N. resolution on weapons inspections, combined with Israel's siege of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Ramallah headquarters drove the gains.

"The U.S. wants a new resolution and Saddam is rejecting that -- that's bullish. With Ramallah as well the tension is getting very high," said Gary Ross of Petroleum Industry Research Associates (PIRA) in New York.

Sustained tension in the Middle East has already helped force up oil prices some 40 percent this year on fear of a supply disruption in a region that pumps a third of the world's crude.

Israeli troops on Monday dug in around Yasser Arafat's headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah amid rising Palestinian fury at the siege on their leader, which has devastated his presidential complex.

And the threat of a U.S.-led strike on Iraq grew after Baghdad vowed on Saturday to reject any new Security Council resolution differing from an agreement reached with the U.N. secretary-general.

The Middle East-dominated OPEC cartel has said it will move to make up for any supply disruptions but could not guarantee to quell a speculative oil price spike driven by war fever.

OPEC last week opted to hold official output limits at the lowest level in a decade, defying consuming countries calls for more oil ahead of the northern winter.

UAE oil minister Obaid bin Saif al-Nasseri said on Monday it was too early to say whether OPEC would increase oil output if prices went above the $28 top end of its target range for a basket of its crude oils. The basket was last valued at $27.45 on Thursday.

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Gains have accelerated on word from the International Energy Agency, which controls emergency stocks among 26 industrialized oil consumer nations, that it would not order a release if a war stopped only Iraqi exports.

"No, I don't think so, no, because we have had such an erratic performance in output from Iraq," the IEA's Executive Director Robert Priddle told Reuters in an interview.

Iraqi exports have been running well below normal because of tough pricing controls imposed by the United States and Britain in its U.N. oil-for-food program.

The words reinforced concern that world oil supplies would not be topped up automatically in the event of military conflict. "The statement by Priddle is very important. In 1990 the IEA released oil almost immediately," said PIRA's Ross.

Economists have warned the fragile U.S. and Asian economies are in no state to absorb further gains in oil prices, which hit drivers at the gasoline pump, eat into company profits and hamper economic growth.

Monday's gains were further bolstered by fears that Hurricane Isidore could cut oil and gas operations in the Gulf of Mexico, and the threat of labor unrest in major suppliers Mexico and Nigeria.

biz.yahoo.com