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To: Henrik who wrote (13221)	9/21/2002 5:08:40 PM
From: nspolar	Respond to of 206118

Henrik, just the first part: NHO-president Jens Ulltveit-Moe går til angrep på storkapitalister i Norsk Investorforum. Ulltveit-Moe mener Stein Erik Hagen & co. opptrer som et sutrekor som er ute etter å berike seg selv på samfunnets bekostning. NHO president J Umoe takes the offense against the big capitalists in NI. UMoe thinks that S E Hage and & Co give the appearance of a sutrekor (whiny slob or whiny sow or something like that) who are out to enrich themselves at the communities expense. (Once while I was in Norway the Norwegian ambassedor to the UK called his UK counterpart, in public, a drittsekk (a shitbag). About that time I was learning these vulgar words, so several had to call me up and lead me to the papers. Once in a discussion we opined that "shit" is the most used word in the world. According to a Norske comrade no it is not, it is "cook". Just a tidbit.) The article further explains how Umoe wants the govt to stay out of certain aspects of the local economy, etc. One of the local economists says "But what does the oil money do for the rest of us?" (I wondered the same thing while working there, although it was obvious a lot had went back into community infrastructure.) And this gives a good insight into the society and workings within Norway. I never did figure it all out. I was discussing something with a local once, about these things. I was a supervisor over mainly Norwegians. I noticed that almost all of them were very cognizant of what their counterpart had - office size, computer screen size, etc. They would readily speak up about it, and expect action. Much more so than here in the US. It seemed the last thing anyone in Norway wanted, was for someone else to be more successful than themselves. That would be the ultimate downer. An explanation made sense. But nspolar you have to understand, we all know what everyone else makes. It is published in the paper and down in the commune. So we're very much aware of what our neighbor has ..... and the last thing anyone wants is for his neighbor to have more than himself. Norway is a small country, population wise, for the resources they have. The big money is controlled by a few, I am fairly certain of that. Some of the daily workers, in the oil industry for example, live quite well. But the average Norwegian has very low buying power imo. A primary reason is the taxes and the cost of daily goods. Taxes are unbelieveable. I always wondered why a new pair of Levis or a nice shirt cost twice as much as in the US for example, or more. Had to be due to more than taxes. My suspicion was that many things like this are somehow limited to small number of importers, i.e. the big capitalists. I remember pricing a valve (oilfield stuff) through the Norwegian distributor. It was 5 times the direct price, which I could legally purchase. So I did. Most Norwegian oil companies wouldn't think of doing the same. It would be unpatriotic. They would do business with the Norwegian affiliate. So where does all this money go? Into few hands imo. So what do all the representatives in the gov't try to do - continually put more rules and regulations into practice to put more money back into the local communities, because all the locals continually wonder "But what does that olje penger do for us?" If their country wasn't so small I don't think the system would work. But since it is small, and they have a lot of natural resources, it seems to. I doubt if many know this, but I believe Norway exports more farmed Salmon (dollars wise) than oil. Don't quote me on that. Just fwiw.