To: Mike Magee who wrote (88420 ) 10/6/2002 12:53:08 AM From: milo_morai Respond to of 275872 <font color=red>Subject: THG vs. Anand (2800 reviews) Author: ChuckReese Number: of 108855 Subject: THG vs. Anand (2800 reviews) Date: 10/4/02 12:55 PM Recommendations: 23 I just noticed something a little odd. In the review from THG, the Athlon 2800 (+nForce) appears to do much better than it does in the review at AnandTech. This was Anand's take: The numbers speak for themselves, the Athlon XP 2800+ is yet another competitive part from AMD. While it fails to regain the absolute performance crown for AMD, it keeps them in the running with Intel. This is what THG had to say: The benchmark results prove that, with its Athon XP 2800+ plus the nForce2 chipset, AMD can take back the performance crown. Above all, because the Front Side Bus clock has been increased from 133 MHz to 166 MHz, the CPU can take full advantage of the higher bandwidth of the nForce2 chipset with Dual DDR333. On closer inspection, it appears that Anand only used a single DIMM in his tests:anandtech.com ; Not exactly the right choice for a dual-channel DDR memory controller. THG used two DIMMs and got much better results: www17.tomshardware.com Here is a comparison of benchmark results from each site. After each benchmark, I note the winner (either Athlon XP 2800 or Pentium 4 2.8 GHz). Keep in mind that THG uses PC1066 RDRAM for their Pentium 4 benchmarks while Anand uses slower PC800 RDRAM in his. Benchmark THG AnandTech ----------------------------------------------- Bus Winstone 2001 n/a Pentium 4 Cinema 4D Athlon n/a 3D Studio Max Athlon Tie Maya n/a Athlon Lightwave Pentium 4 Pentium 4 SPEC Viewperf Athlon n/a DivX Encoding Athlon Pentium 4 MP2 Encoding Athlon n/a MP3 Encoding Tie Pentium 4 Archiving Pentium 4 n/a UT 2003 Athlon Athlon Jedi Knight n/a Pentium 4 Serious Sam n/a Athlon Comanche Pentium 4 Pentium 4 Quake 3 Arena Pentium 4 n/a 3D Mark 2000 Athlon n/a 3D Mark 2001 Athlon n/a The benchmark results paint a pretty clear picture. In order to get the best performance out of nForce, you need to use two DIMMs! The model of "2800" is a good choice. When configured correctly, it wins about the same number of benchmarks as a 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 with PC1066 RDRAM. CR boards.fool.com