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To: foundation who wrote (27032)	9/23/2002 1:49:02 PM
From: waitwatchwander	Respond to of 196660

Vodafone and mmO2 to continue with planned 3G roll-out schedule europemedia.net 23/09/2002 Editor: Cathy O'Sullivan Vodafone and mmO2 claim that comments made by the German regulator RegTP will not affect their timetable for the roll-out of next generation their mobile phone services in Germany. The president of German telecoms regulator RegTP, Matthias Kurth, in an interview with Agence France Presse said that the regulator was willing to enter discussions if licensees felt the launch date for the new services now looked unrealistic from a technical point of view. In August, Kurth was quoted in Sueddeutsche Zeitung as conceding that maybe the cost of acquiring 3G licences had proved "exorbitant". 3G licence rules in Germany stipulate that operators must have UMTS services up and running and accessible to at least 25 per cent of the population by the end of next year and 50 per cent by 2005. "In our own case we are committed to the roll out schedule in Germany and we will have the infrastructure in place within the timeframe," said Vodafone press officer Bobby Leach. "It still remains our intention to meet licence conditions, including roll out in Germany. So the position has not really changed," said mmo2 press officer Simon Gordon.

To: foundation who wrote (27032)	9/23/2002 7:09:35 PM
From: foundation	Respond to of 196660

"With WCDMA radio you get... capacity and that is not needed immediately, of course, because we have ample capacity and lots of possibility to increase existing capacity in existing networks for GPRS," Vanjoki said at company headquarters in Espoo, near the capital Helsinki. ..because we have ample capacity and lots of possibility to increase existing capacity in existing networks for GPRS.." Message 18023889 ========== Europe has ample capacity now? <ggg> So... three days before unveiling its wCDMA handset masterpiece - reportedly not with carriers, but at a museum filled with other aesthetically interesting though functionally useless objects - Nokia tosses wCDMA out the corporate door like an old lumberjack boot? Nokia has a new panacea: Adaptive Multi-rate (AMR) vocoders and dynamic frequency and channel allocation (DFCA) to breathe 3G life into GPRS networks. Capacity and performance will flow like milk and honey. Pity that Deutsche Bank, in Alice in GSM Fantasyland, debunked the myth, though that may prove little distraction... Message 17783806 Pity Nokia and 3GPP can't dictate reality. Have they yet learned they can't? On a peripheral issue, why is there no EDGE promotion in Vanjoki's new declaration? Why is any mention of EDGE conspicuous in its absence? It seems logical - no - mandatory that Nokia would include EDGEfantasies in this new vision... BUT NO WORD... WHY? Could it be the same reason that no word of handsets accompanied NOK's recent PR on infrastructure? And after utterly failing to deliver GPRS performance and capacity claims... And spiritually dumping wCDMA today... After fiercely promoting wCDMA to carriers that are now drowning in spectrum debt... And we might infer, in light of Vodafone Germany's Juergen von Kuczkowski's comments: "It is less a question of quantity (of handsets) than quality standards. We are simply not satisfied with various performance features. This is particularly so with handover problems. Our suppliers, Motorola as well as Nokia, are often not able to keep to agreed timetables and they delay again and again features and terminals." Treating at least one wCDMA carrier customer rather shabbily... And in light of this comprehensive history... Nokia asks the carrier community to trust that it - that 3GPP - that the 3GSM vendor community - can and will deliver on capacity and performance improvements whose claims are already questioned by the industry and analyst community? As always, it's a funny Nokia world...