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To: spiral3 who wrote (46617)	9/24/2002 7:43:09 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Secondly, If your point is that race is an inappropriate prism through which to view the conflict, why do you keep bringing it up. Jokes aside I think you make a valid point about the framework and I agree. Mostly, I bring it up in reaction to official Arab promotions of Nazi anti-Semitism as a belief and a weapon in their struggle against Israel. Jewish anti-Arab racism may certainly exist, but it doesn't hold a candle to the officially promulgated Arab anti-Jew variety. What is particularly galling to me is the steady refusal of most of the American press to even report its existence, leaving an incorrect impression of Arab moderateness with the American public. You're going to have to explain to me what code you think Mandela was actually using. Remember, I'm an American, and we have our own traditions of racism to define our terms, with a very definite racial divide between "white" and "black", none of which conceivably applies to the Mideast. If he was really talking about European-style democracies vs. Third-world dictatorships, I don't see how I'm "bluffing" to say race has nothing to do with the case. I see the Israeli/Arab conflict as fundamentally religious, since apart from the very real issues of borders and autonomy, what makes the conflict intractable is the universal Arab/Muslim belief that, once Arab land, always Arab land. If the Arab population of Palestine had been universally Christian, the conflict would have developed along quite different and more tractable lines imo; in fact, Israel has always gotten on much better with Arab Christian communities than Arab Muslim ones. And Arafat and his thugs have taken revenge on the Christians for that history -- check the Christian Palestinian emigration rates from PA territory since 1993, they're huge.