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To: Win Smith who wrote (46875)9/25/2002 11:14:42 AM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Even in the West, I don't think the Crusades are considered all that exemplary.

Check this out...

The First Crusade - Conquering of Jerusalem
latter-rain.com

"The great prize had been won at the cost of a terrible blemish that served to poison relations between Christians and Moslems for years and contributed to the Moslem fanaticism that resulted in the expulsion of the Christians from the East. When Jerusalem fell the Crusaders indulged in a wholesale slaughter of the Moslem and the Jews who were inside, over the heaps of bodies they made way to the holy shrines. The slaughter was terrible; the blood of the conquered ran down the streets, until men splashed in blood as they rode. .. feet colored to our ankles with the blood of the slain. None of them were left alive, not women or children. A letter to Paschal II from Godfrey described that in Solomon's Porch and in his temple the men rode in the blood of the Saracens up to the knees of their horses, 10,000 Turks killed. The followers of the cross were guilty of massacre, robbery and any maniacal perversion thought of. Children's brains were dashed out against the stones, or their living bodies were whirled in demoniacal sport from the walls. Women were outraged prior to being murdered."



To: Win Smith who wrote (46875)9/25/2002 12:31:59 PM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
In "most of the big killing events of the 20th century.", the causes did not include religion, any religion, even nominally. Just power politics.