To: GREENLAW4-7 who wrote (55620 ) 9/26/2002 11:06:52 AM From: Rande Is Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57584 if Japan could have a 10 year bear then the US could just as easy based on the savings rate and the level of individual debt. Ouch! That is a dreadful thought. But yes, there is certainly precedence. Solar homes being shown on the mall in Washington D.C. over next few weeks. Might be a good time to reconsider our discussions from a few years back on going 100% self-sufficient.. I trade with 1/6th of what I used to not from losing but from taking my profits out on a quarterly basis. You are a smart trader.The BEAR will be dead when CNBC gets replaced with OPRA reruns. LOL! I haven't watched CNBC since mid-2000. . . funny how life goes on without it. I found it to muddy up my thinking. Tough to keep a pure thought on market direction when these million dollar salary types are flooding the airwaves with their skewed analysis, conjecture, back-peddling and as has been proven in court: flat-out-lying.I think we must head to the 4000-5000 area in the DOW and probably lower, while the NASD will probably see 600 before it see's 2000. I had been thinking same thing, looking at the strong support in the 650-700 area of the Naz. . . as ugly a thought as that seems. Not sure Dow will make it quite as low as you predict, but certainly we are in similar danger at this time. No one thinks you anti-American. We are simply dealing with historical facts and projections. Telecommunications sounds right for pulling things out of the dumps and Broadband full-motion-video internet. . .with TV mixed with movies mixed with the internet mixed with games and communications like a single entertainment/communications interface . . . will be the catalyst, in my opinion. It will be irresistible. Your thoughts are always appreciated here. And believe me, there are plenty of folks still hanging around and staying in touch. It is simply a different world now than it was a few years ago. And as such, our tools, indicators, discussions, attitudes and outlooks must change accordingly. The brave and the wise person promotes and embraces change. Rande Is