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To: The Philosopher who wrote (60044)	9/26/2002 7:19:08 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"Do I have the right to judge your behavior? If so, what on earth gives me that right? I may do it, but that doesn't mean I have the right. Just the ability and desire, which are very different things." Since it is an innate thing that I am not even able to detect unless you want me to, what possible restriction would keep you from judging my behavior. It is your right because it "just is," an element of being human. Nothing "on Earth" or gives it to you. Now the manner in which you choose to act on your jugdement of my behavior is another matter.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (60044)	9/26/2002 8:35:40 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Well I think I fully qualified the of course statement. It is an unrestricted innate quality of being human to judge other person's behaviors. A fully functioning human being has no choice (option) but to attribute rightness or wrongness to behavior. As I said, nothing "on Earth" gives you this but since it is being human it is right as apposed to being wrong to judge the behavior of others. It is an aspect of engaging in the social conscious. It is not wrong nor is it neutral, it is the right way for humans to exist. However, is not a legal right that is granted. An attribute that just is, not an option. What you do as a result is an option and may even influence your future judgement about things. I make the distintion here because some people are conflicted over this issue. Some people get upset and claim that we should never judge other people's behavior (Which is passing judgement on people who judge other people's behavior). There in lies the flaw and the conflict. They reference statements like "thou shalt not judge" which I interpret to be in reference to other people's intentions or the condition of another person's soul; or statements like "judge not, lest ye be judged" which to me means be "as ye give so shall ye be given", so be fair; or again in references to the condition of another's soul. We cannot have an orderly society unless we have an opinion and set limits about behavior. If we work to establish unfair and oppressive limits about behavior we are likely to get unfair and oppressive treatment as a result. Murder is not an unavoidable innate quality of being human that one needs to participate in to fully partipate in social concience. It is a behavior. It is also an option that you can choose or deny. The two are far from the same however.