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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (301470)9/27/2002 7:53:53 PM
From: Ben Wa  Respond to of 769670
 
Pakistan Christians Demand Protection
Thu Sep 26, 1:00 PM ET
By ZARAR KHAN, Associated Press Writer

KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) - Angry and frightened after another deadly attack, Christians took to the streets Thursday demanding protection from Islamic militants believed behind the massacre of seven Christian charity workers who were bound, gagged and shot execution-style in their office.

AP Photo

AP Photo
Slideshow: Deadly Attack On Pakistan Christian Charity

Christians Die In Karachi Militant Attack
(Reuters)



Black flags flew over churches and Christian schools were closed in mourning, while relatives began burying those killed in Wednesday's attack, the latest brutality against Christians and Westerners since President Pervez Musharraf began a crackdown on Islamic extremists and threw his support behind the U.S. war in Afghanistan ( news - web sites).

"We give the government 48 hours to arrest the killers," said Karamat Chochan, a local Christian leader. "If the killers are not arrested, the entire Christian community will take to the streets."

Pakistan's 3.8 million Christians make up about 2.5 percent of the country's population.

On Thursday, some 500 protesters blocked several main roads in Karachi, chanting, "Arrest the killers. Hang the killers. Protect Christians." The demonstration followed a night of small, peaceful protests at the dozens of shantytowns where poor Christians live in Karachi.

The All Pakistan Minorities Alliance, which represents the nation's Christians, called for a three-day period of mourning, with Christian schools shuttered and followers staying home from their jobs.

"We are very sad. Everyone is in mourning," said the Rev. Baz Philip of the multi-denominational Christian Church in Karachi.

No arrests have been made in Wednesday's massacre at the third- floor office of the Institute for Peace and Justice, a Pakistani Christian charity. Witnesses said two men carried out the attack.

Karachi Police Chief Kamal Shah said the assailants tied victims to chairs, bound their hands behind their backs and shot them in the head.

One of the victims of Wednesday's attack, an office assistant, who was beaten but not shot was being questioned by police.

Authorities want to know how the gunmen got into the office, which had an electronic door that could only be opened from the inside. The slaughter follows a series of deadly attacks against Christian sites.

On Aug. 9, attackers hurled grenades at worshippers as they were leaving a church on the grounds of a Presbyterian hospital in Taxila, 25 miles west of the capital, Islamabad. Four nurses were killed and 25 people were wounded.

Four days earlier, assailants raided a Christian school 40 miles east of Islamabad, killing six Pakistanis.

And on March 17, a grenade attack on a Protestant church in Islamabad's heavily guarded diplomatic quarter killed five people, including an American woman, her 17-year-old daughter and the lone assailant.

Wednesday's killings follow weeks of arrests, many in southern Karachi, of militant Muslims belonging to Harakat-ul Mujahedeen-Al Almi, blamed by the government for a series of violent attacks. They include the June bombing outside the U.S. Consulate that killed 12 Pakistanis, a May suicide bombing that killed 11 French engineers and several failed assassination attempts against Musharraf.

So far police have arrested 23 Al Almi suspects, and authorities say 39 others are still at large. During the arrest of two of the Al Almi militants, police found maps of two churches and a Christian school in Karachi, along with weapons and explosives, Interior Ministry officials have said.

That discovery prompted authorities nationwide to remove signs from around some churches set up in private homes and to fortify other Christian sites with sandbag bunkers.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (301470)9/27/2002 7:55:41 PM
From: Ben Wa  Respond to of 769670
 
Malaysian couple to sue religious police


There are strict rules on keeping unrelated Muslim men and women apart

A Malaysian couple who have been married for 22 years plan to sue government officials who burst into their bedroom and arrested them under strict Islamic morality laws.
Abdul Halim Zainal Abidin and his wife Nooriah were staying in a rented room when the incident happened two years ago.

They were unable to produce their marriage certificate immediately, so the officials detained them for seven hours under a law which forbids unchaperoned close contact between unrelated Muslim men and women.

The couple, who have three children, are seeking compensation for wrongful arrest and humiliation.

Phone a friend

The couple were arrested when religious department officials in Perak state burst into their rented room in Ipoh - 200 kilometres (125 miles) north of the capital, Kuala Lumpur, after midnight in October 2000.

The New Straits Times newspaper said Abdul Halim and Nooriah were handcuffed, taken into custody and held overnight in police cells at separate locations.

The next day, Mr Abdul Halim was allowed to telephone a friend who fetched the marriage certificate and brought it to the police station.

Abdul Halim - a civil servant - said he was taking legal action because he had become frustrated at waiting for an apology from state officials, the newspaper reported.

Correspondents say religious department officers often raid hotel rooms or public parks frequented by lovers in the mainly Muslim country, detaining unmarried couples caught together.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (301470)9/28/2002 5:22:53 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 769670
 
"Delenda est Judaica," which could be translated as "Judaism must be destroyed."
This your denomination, Evile?

August 30, 2002
Hate, American Style
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

AST PEORIA, Ill. — My interview with the Rev. Matt Hale, America's scariest hatemonger, got off to a rocky
start.

As he picked at a fruit salad in a restaurant here in East Peoria, his headquarters, he recalled an incident in
childhood that first led him to regard nonwhites as vermin: At a dance, he saw white girls "betraying their race"
by kissing black boys.

"I felt nauseous," he said solemnly. "Interracial marriage is against nature. It's a form of bestiality."

A moment later, I disclosed that I had betrayed the white race and married a Chinese-American. It was, I felt,
an awkward moment.

But Mr. Hale, as charming and charismatic as he is hateful, was unfazed. He beamed, and for a moment I
thought he was going to ask to see photos of my kids.

I came to East Peoria to meet Mr. Hale because he has become the key figure in America's hate community,
revitalizing racism by recruiting women, children and convicts into a high-tech, energetic organization whose
followers show a pattern of random brutality toward blacks and other "enemies." It would be flattering Mr. Hale
too much to call his group America's Al Qaeda, but the scary thing is that I think the comparison would leave
him feeling flattered.

After 9/11 I interviewed Muslim hatemongers abroad, and I wanted to confront our own religious extremists.
They are not a threat to national stability, the way they are in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, but they are every bit
as loony as Al Qaeda and they have been enmeshed in violence. That's particularly true of Mr. Hale's group,
the World Church of the Creator, whose followers have shot, knifed or beaten blacks, Jews and
Asian-Americans in several states.

Mr. Hale dismisses the attacks as understandable but anomalous. He says that while killing enemies
(presumably including race-betrayers like me) is morally justifiable, for now it is tactically inappropriate and
doesn't accomplish much, anyway.

"Suppose someone goes out and kills 10 blacks tonight," he shrugs impatiently. "Well, there are millions
more."

A law school graduate, Mr. Hale, 31, has built the World Church of the Creator into an international
organization with members in 49 states and 28 countries. It claims 70,000 to 80,000 adherents and boasts in
press releases that it is "the fastest-growing white racist and anti-Semitic church in America."

Yet it is not a religion in any traditional sense, and its sole theology is "RaHoWa" — racial holy war on behalf
of whites. It recruits very energetically, distributing 80,000 leaflets just this spring, and runs a sophisticated
Web site with information on, for example, how to make your own plastic explosives. The church even has a
Web page for kids.

There are plenty of other domestic counterparts to Islam's manic mullahs. Think of Christian
Reconstructionists, who want to re-establish Old Testament laws, even stoning to death adulterers and
heretics. (We tend to forget that stoning to death is never mentioned in the Koran but is frequently prescribed
in the Bible; a rigid interpretation of Deuteronomy would lead to the execution of most Americans.)

Mr. Hale's World Church is scariest of all, though, because of its vigor and highbrow racism. One of the
church's slogans, an ungrammatical twist on Cato the Elder's famous line about Carthage, is even in Latin:
"Delenda est Judaica," which could be translated as "Judaism must be destroyed."

The son of a policeman, Mr. Hale had his awakening when he was 12 years old and read both "The Rise and
Fall of the Third Reich" and "Mein Kampf." ( So much for the benefits of early reading programs.) He marries
his intelligence with attitudes that make your skin crawl.

After the reporter Daniel Pearl was murdered, Mr. Hale wrote: "We couldn't care less about the death of this
Jew who along with the rest of his parasitic race are clearly a form of vermin far more dangerous in fact than
the kind that run on four legs."

Mr. Hale also boasted to me: "We have really revolutionized the whole racial community. People used to think
of a guy with a beer belly, spitting out tobacco and missing a few teeth. Now they think of people who are
determined, energetic leaders, educated and idealistic. We're the best."

As Al Qaeda has shown us, the only people more dangerous than dumb bigots are smart, educated ones.

nytimes.com