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To: The Philosopher who wrote (60087)	9/27/2002 3:12:16 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Actually, I already noted that one's case might not be accepted, but that it was enough that one made the effort, baring a legal matter. Since it is hard to get a competent, trustworthy, and unbiased tribunal, my emphasis is on being willing to answer for oneself, not on any judgment rendered, in order to ensure objectivity and show a decent respect for those who might have an interest in the matter. As for the proof, it would be ludicrous if we refused to rely on general observation, but required "scientific proof" for everything. In fact, if one goes by the rate of college attendance and graduation, or comparative rates of incarceration, women are smarter and morally superior to men. But the general observation that they appear to handle responsibility well, and to be competitive with males, in any number of occupations, suffices to refute the notion that they, as a group, required guardianship, which was my main contention.......

To: The Philosopher who wrote (60087)	9/27/2002 4:23:43 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I don't consider the decision to be an agnostic a moral decision. I consider it to just be the way I perceive the world. I do not perceive I have any choice about the way I perceive things- unless of course I choose to take mind altering chemicals, that would alter the world for me no doubt but that is not something I will do.. I believe what is in front of me, and that is what is in front of me. I take no moral credit for the decision at all, any more than my acceptance that the sky appears blue is a moral decision. For me such things are just the way things are. And I accept that the way things are, are different for other people. And I don't find anything very moral in other people's decisions to believe things that seem apparent to them. I fail to see any great good in that, just as I fail to see any real moral choice.