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To: TobagoJack who wrote (23627)9/28/2002 12:28:37 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Jay - its cold out there (www.bled.si with autumn colours, snow-powdered mountains...) and it's time off...

check this...

September 25: “The International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA) announced today the results of the 2002 Mid-year Market Survey of privately negotiated derivatives notional amounts outstanding at swap dealers worldwide. Interest rate and currency derivative outstandings are $82.7 trillion, credit derivatives are $1.6 trillion, and equity derivatives, surveyed for the first time, are $2.3 trillion. ‘All swaps in the Survey grew significantly in the first half of 2002, but the growth in credit derivatives exceeded all expectations,’ said Keith Bailey, Chairman of the Board of ISDA. ‘The strong increase in credit swaps is good news both for market participants and for financial markets as a whole,’ said Bailey. ‘Individual market participants are taking advantage of the availability of credit protection, and financial markets are benefiting by spreading credit risks over a wider and deeper market.’ Interest rate and currency derivatives, which consist of interest rate swaps and options and currency swaps, increased over 19% since ISDA’s Year-end Survey in December. Among firms responding to both the Year-End and Mid-Year Surveys for interest rate and currency derivatives, outstandings grew 16%; and among the top ten reporting dealers, outstandings grew nearly 18%. Credit derivatives, which consist of credit default swaps, grew 44% since the end of 2001; among firms responding to both the 2001 Year-End and the 2002 Mid-Year Surveys, outstandings grew 35%. Equity derivatives, which consist of equity forwards, swaps, and options, are the newest addition to the Market Survey.”

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...“Structured finance” has run amuck. And why the high correlation between the numbers of “risk” models in operation and the surprisingly large number of low probability events? Former Fed Chairman Paul Volker, as usual, gets right to the heart of the matter: “A lot of the value-at-risk stuff was invented by mathematicians who don’t know anything about the markets.”

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...the optimistic Chairman Greenspan...[in] ...his Wednesday speech in London: “A major contributor to the dispersion of risk in recent decades has been the wide-ranging developments of markets in securitized bank loans, credit card receivables, and commercial and residential mortgages. These markets have tailored the risks associated with holding such assets to fit the preferences of a broader spectrum of investors. Especially important in the United States has been the flexibility and size of the secondary mortgage market. Since early 2000, this market has facilitated the large debt financed extraction of home equity that, in turn, has been so critical in supporting consumer outlays in the United States throughout the recent period of cyclical stress. This market’s flexibility has been particularly enhanced by extensive use of interest rate swaps and options to hedge maturity mismatches and prepayment risk.” (We certainly take no issue with his assessment of the critical financial and economic role played by mortgage finance!)

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...That Greenspan would this week comment that outsized risk premiums “suggest” the “potential for a far larger world financial system” suggests that he has conveniently sunk to a new low in economic analysis (and that he is deluded). This key issue goes all the way back to the John Law’s great fallacy: that economic wealth can be created simply by providing additional money (“finance”). And in reasoning that either lacks credibility or understanding, Greenspan would like us to believe we can have our cake and eat it too – that more beneficial “finance” can be created that leads to more “wealth” and higher living standards, as long as it is “managed ever more effectively.” ...

my gut feeling - risk is good (just as somebody long time ago said "greed is good") let's securitize just everything from Apples to Zebras and sell it to some mongoose as a X point Y something. Call it security, because it is secure, ie no risk. Oh yes, and if you really care, buy some lotto ticket at wholesaler's against credit default, interest rate, power-outage blah blah blah, swap this, sweep that and dont forget to slap on some lipstick when you're done

And everybody has a share - to quote Milo Minderbender again.

RegZ

dj

PS: quotes from Doug Noland (of course)
prudentbear.com



To: TobagoJack who wrote (23627)9/28/2002 2:05:20 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 74559
 
Good morning Jay. It's 5.30 am here on Sunday morning, and I'm lying in bed at the crack of dawn, with birds already awake, singing, catching worms and chasing girls [the mating season is now on, fast and furious = the bird GDP, housing and productivity is enormous; humans, having a year long mating season maintain such energy, production and enthusiasm constantly]. I must have something on my mind. I suspect it's the shape of the JP Morgan, Citibank and GE legs still hidden above the hemline. I've done my share of reproduction, so I don't think it's spring fever.

I am right, not wrong: <<<What printing can do is transfer ownership of assets from one bunch of people to another and maintain price stability and reduce the propensity of people to keep money stashed in a mattress>>, you are wrong, because poverty is being transferred from one group to another, and thus neither will continue to spend. >

Printing of money transfers assets from the people who currently hold them to the people who print the money. I am not saying that's a good thing, just observing what happens. My view is that it's a bad thing, especially since those with the printing presses are not too reliable [being a democratically elected mob-rule kleptocracy - dictators lack even the merit of a lot of people being in favour of theft]. It's important to accept certain facts of life, not as being right or wrong, but just are. Printing money is asset transfer to the printing people. I know you know this to be true.

Price stability is considered by many to be the vital aspect of a fiat currency because that's the way to retain confidence in it as a store of value and to make it a measuring stick to value a vast range of human activity and natural resources. If a measuring stick is like one of Dali's melting watches, morphing in shape, or an elephant with incredibly long legs, one never knows where one stands.

Printing money can maintain a constant value by increasing the number of fiat units when the size of the pie is increasing and there are more and more units of stuff to be valued and transacted and people.

Also, if productivity is increasing and more and more can be produced for less and less cost, prices would fall. Printing money can avoid deflation, which a lot of people don't like. Assets can be transferred to the money printers without anyone noticing, because prices are stable [when they would otherwise be falling]. Again, I am not saying that asset transfer is a good thing, just is. I am not saying that price stability as an avoidance of human deflationary productivity is a good thing, it just is.

People stashing a lot of money in mattresses isn't a good thing because those are promises being stacked and a vast stack of promises cannot be kept. It's important not to have too many unbackable promises in a community. Paper money [or pixel money] is NOT a reliable store of value. It's just a piece of paper. When too many people have a big stash of cash, then they get the wind up, they will cause hyperinflation when they all pull it out and try to redeem the promise made to them simultaneously.

By printing, their stashes can be stolen by inflating them away, spirited away by quantum tunnelling, right through the walls of the house and the mattress, without disturbing the bed.

When prices are falling, people are encouraged to stash cash. If inflation is burbling along, they are discouraged from holding excessive cash. Governments [the money printers] can steal from savers to fund essential government services such as bankruptcy proceedings and police [to defend assets which will otherwise be stolen]. Savers are the only ones who can be stolen from without active force [taxation and other feather plucking from golden geese causes too much squawking and commotion - taxation by stealth is like a swan paddling along the surface of water; smooth as silk viewed from above but going like hell underneath].

So, now you can see that I was right, not wrong. Which is, I reaffirm, not to say that I agree with the process taken to extremes, but certainly to the extent that our great and admirable idol, Uncle Al, KBE, has done.

He has printed to perfection. Give or take a $billion or two. Which is an amazing achievement given the fact that it's an infinitely variable world and predicting mob behaviour, especially in financial manias of irrational exuberance, is notably difficult.

The point for we investors is to know that the printers will print and these processes will proceed. That just is what happens. You might not like it and might think there's a better way, that just as the the day has dawned, it will be. There are consequences. Being in the right position BEFORE those consequences are recognized is a good idea, with watchful waiting to ensure that the processes are indeed proceeding on plan and retreat and regrouping isn't a better idea.

I had to do an unseemly retreat and regrouping following the Globalstar debacle and the far greater crunching of market miscreants than I expected would be required to tidy up the market [me turning out to also be a miscreant which I fortunately recognized before the headmaster got the cane out - made myself scarce].

Mqurice