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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1809)	9/30/2002 8:26:48 AM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8683

>> Well, it's an historical fact that Nazi Germany declared war on us << we had been supplying the allies, so we were far from a neutral party to the war long before hitler declared war on us. >> I'm presuming you would not have wanted America to ally itself with both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union << i think the best policy would have been to let germany and the soviets fight each other until they were exhausted. then the british could have stepped in. but they made that foolish war guarantee to poland and declared war on germany because chamberlain had his pride stepped on, thereby incurring hitler's wrath. if chamberlain had continued his policy of appeasement hitler would have turned his forces eastward and left britain alone. big mistake on britain's part. the mistake of the united states was to support britain prior to entering the war. if we didn't support britain they would have either not declared war in the first place or they would have had to negotiate a peace with hitler after the fighting started. this would have allowed hitler to pursue his original goal all along which was to attack the soviets to the east. if i'm not mistaken poland is not on the way to britain or france.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (1809)	10/1/2002 1:07:09 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8683

So how do you think we should have communicated our desire for alliance to Nazi Germany in that window of time? I don't think we should have, but we could have done it in this manner: <<< Still, as late as January 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun (NMO). The naval attaché in the German embassy in Turkey transmitted the LEHI proposal to his superiors in Germany. It read in part: “It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen of National Socialist Germany that a New Order in Europe requires as a prerequisite the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation. The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question. This can only be made possible and complete through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people, Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic boundaries.” It continues to state that, “The NMO...is well acquainted with the good will of the German Reich Government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans” and states that, “The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis and bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German position of power in the Near East...The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany’s side...The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be in line with one of the recent speeches of the German Reichs Chancellor, in which Herr Hitler stressed that any combination and any alliance would be entered into in order to isolate England and defeat it,” The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered Lehi’s military power “negligible.” >>> washington-report.org Given our superior military, we might have been granted an alliance. Tom