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To: SeachRE who wrote (302957)10/1/2002 2:21:46 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
"Once again Jr's smoking gun fizzles....."

First it was 33 lbs of fissionable material, then it was just 5 ounces, now nothing at all fissionable and not even uranium....
This is laughable...

story.news.yahoo.com

Top Stories - Reuters
Turkey Says Seized Substance Not Uranium
Tue Oct 1, 8:24 AM ET

By Mehmet Emin Caliskan

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkish scientists said on Tuesday the substance at the center of a nuclear weapons scare was not uranium and that the material seized in the south of the country posed no threat.

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Turkish police said over the weekend they had seized 33 lbs of weapons-grade uranium in a taxi about 155 miles from the border with Iraq, facing possible U.S. military action over its alleged program of weapons of mass destruction.

Officials said later the amount had in fact been about five ounces. The difference was explained by the weight of the metal container holding the material.

Scientists at Turkey's Nuclear Research and Training Center on the outskirts of Istanbul said on Tuesday the substance was not uranium and was not radioactive.

"It is a powder of zinc, manganese, iron and zirconium," Guler Koksal, director of the research facility told Reuters. "It is not radioactive, it is not chemical and it is not explosive."

Suspicions had been aroused by the words "primarily youranuom" written on the outside of the metal tube in which the sandy powder was stored in a glass vial.

"It doesn't mean anything," Koksal said, calling it "a very big mistake" for officials to have declared the substance weapons-grade uranium without proper checks.

President Bush ( news - web sites) says Baghdad has tried to acquire uranium to develop a nuclear bomb. The Bush administration is working to build international support for a military operation to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites).

Iraq denies it has weapons of mass destruction.



To: SeachRE who wrote (302957)10/1/2002 2:24:21 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Well stupidity found, that is not a very accurate description of what occurs and governs the release of all energy released by u235 material that undergoes fission. So if 5 onces of u235 material undergoes fission what is your equation that governs the release of energy. I say it is e=mc2. e=mc2 is not theoretical, it is the rule.

Stupidy found and others choose to state additional conditions and then proffer e=mc2 does not govern is just more stupidity found. The energy released is always the mass actually converted to energy times the speed of light squared.

In the fission of U235 most of the mass becomes Ba and Kr and three fast neutrons, not energy. But e=mc2 governs the amount energy released.

In a fission bomb not all u235 undergoes fission. But e=mc2 governs the amount energy released.

If five onces undergoes fission e=mc2 governs the amount energy released. Nothing more and nothing less fool.

Now I have seen it reported that 56 grams of u235 is needed for each kiloton of yield one would desire. So five onces would yield about 3 kilotons of tnt explosion. And yes e=mc2 governs the amount of energy yielded.

I do wonder if you will ever understand this elementary explanation.