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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (60565)	10/1/2002 6:00:07 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

there are many types of well functioning societies (depending on how you define "well" and "function". ) Not everyone's needs need to be met. Societies can function well and be repressive. Are they "better" are they "worse"? That totally depends on your premises. All I am saying, is that you are assuming a lot in order to get where you want to go, with your argument.

To: Neocon who wrote (60565)	10/1/2002 6:10:41 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Within my framework, that means that our society is superior, And where does that framework come from? Will you agree that within some frameworks, that would be a very inferior society? And will you agree that there is no way to know which framework is "better" in the abstract? Yours is clearly, you say, better for you. Others may be better for them. Is there any way really to choose between them WITHOUT reference to the values of your system, which pretty much by definition will mean you think yours is better? As an example, a strict devotion to primitive Christianity would say that your framework is pretty terrible.