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To: Ilaine who wrote (48751)	10/2/2002 1:17:37 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi CobaltBlue; Re: "I've refrained from posting all the stories that allege that nations bordering Iraq DO want us to take him out." There are essentially no links from Arabic news sites that say this. There are almost daily links proclaiming the opposite. The sources you would link showing the opposite are not from Arabic countries. On this planet, in every single country, bribes are paid to the police (if only in the form of free donuts and coffee). On the neocon planet, the policeman walks around handing out bribes to all the local nations so that they won't squawk when we arrest the criminal that is threatening them. The simple fact is that the neocons have divorced themselves from reality. Why? It's the election, of course. Re: "I judge them by their actions. If we are building bases in their country, that tells me that they support us. If we have our own military in their country, that tells me that they support us." "Support us" and "support our war against Iraq" are two completely different things. During the Vietnam war, most of the free world still had defense relations with us, but very few of them actually supported the war. You still are refusing to face the central fact of the Gulf War, which was that the surrounding nations publicly asked for our participation and bribed us to be there by paying our expenses. -- Carl