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To: Moominoid who wrote (23775)	10/2/2002 11:15:39 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>> I would think that probably priests were appointed because people had too many other useful things to do like work in their fields. Specialisation of labor. << Religion / beliefs must have been already there before any specialisation of labor and/or social order came to being. If there was some sort of appointment, it was first of all some sort of ritual transition - into the group of elders / hunters / leaders / men (see bar mitzvah) bwdiw... I am thinking about humans all the way back to paintings on the walls in Lascaux - or in AUS ("Then came the day when he was taken to the holy place the first time") RegZ dj

To: Moominoid who wrote (23775)	10/2/2002 3:04:07 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

David feeling is not just as legitimate as thinking. Chimps feel, humans think. Yes, there's some overlap, [especially in the feeling department] but feeling isn't a good substitute for thinking. It is not as legitimate. Sure, it's actually plenty powerful and is the driving force for people. But it's like an engine with no steering. It's the brains which steer the feelings. But apart from that, feelings are not very measurable. We can't objectively measure somebody else's feelings, but we can measure somebody else's experiment. Religious feelings are notably irrational - leading to all sorts of horrendous violence. We have absurd things like driving the devil out of somebody by exorcism and curing them at Lourdes. Perhaps it feels great, but it's irrational. Sure, specialisation of labour manned the institution, but the concentration of power, getting the girls, food and money was the driving force. Check out all the religions [especially the minor cults which can be examined in real time, like David Koresh, Jim Jones, the Heaven's Gate Wackoes, Moonies etc and look who is at the top and who started it - a randy, self-important greedy guy who just loved telling other people what to do, especially the girls]. Mqurice