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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2099)10/3/2002 9:46:51 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Respond to of 2926
 
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POSTED AT 7:42 PM EDT Wednesday, October 2

Peck leads to bushel of trouble

Associated Press

Tehran — A cultural official was taken into custody for failing to arrest an Iranian actress and the young actor she publicly kissed on the cheek, Iranian media reported Wednesday.

Socializing between unrelated men and women is banned by Iran's Islamic laws, and public kissing between men and women is considered taboo.

Mohammed Ali Pakdel, a cultural official in Yazd in central Iran, was jailed Tuesday, the daily Etemad reported. He was later released on the equivalent of $9,537 bail.

Mr. Pakdel was accused of failing to act on an arrest order issued after actress Gowhar Kheirandish and actor Ali Zamani shook hands and kissed on the cheek during a public festival in Yazd.

Mr. Pakdel denied the accusation, saying the judicial order was issued after the pair had already left Yazd, Etemad reported.

Iranian filmmakers and other artists warned the arrest would harm Iran's improving international image.

Filmmaker Abolfazl Jalili said Wednesday that Ms. Kheirandish, who is in her 50s, became emotional and kissed Mr. Zamani after meeting him.

Mr. Zamani, in his 20s, was a student of Ms. Kheirandish's late husband, Jamshid Esmaeilkhani, a well-known actor who died earlier this year.

"For Kheirandish, Zamani was like her son and there was definitely no other intention. Judicial action only harms Iran's improving international image," Mr. Jalili said.

Actor Iraj Rad said he was "shocked" to hear arrest warrants had been issued for Ms. Kheirandish and Mr. Zamani.

"Kheirandish is one of the best actresses and a respectable lady. I'm really shocked to hear the news," he said.

It was not clear if the arrest warrants against the two actors still stand. Ms. Kheirandish and Mr. Zamani could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

On Monday, Mohsen Talebpour, who represents Iran's hardline supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, organized a public protest in Yazd to condemn the public kiss, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.



To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2099)10/4/2002 12:08:03 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
Muhammad, a 'demon-possessed pedophile'?
June 15, 2002
This week's annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention was met with some unexpected fireworks after my friend Dr. Jerry Vines, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Fla., declared that Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile" and that Islam teaches the destruction of all non-Muslims.

If you want to raise the ire of the mainstream press and the swarm of politically-correct organizations in this nation, just criticize Islam (as Dr. Vines learned).

Dr. Vines' statements were made in reference to the new book, "Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs" (Kregel Publications). It is written by scholars Ergun and Emir Caner, brothers raised as Muslims who are today dynamic and outspoken Christians. Ergun is assistant professor of theology and church history at Criswell College in Dallas, while Emir is assistant professor of church history and Anabaptist studies at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C.

Dr. Vines also quoted from the Hadith, a respected source for Islamic teaching among Muslim clerics and followers worldwide. Upon examination, the Hadith verifies that Muhammad did marry the nine-year-old daughter of a friend. The girl, named Aisha, became known as the "mother of believers."

"It's simply a matter of quoting [Islamic] sources," said Emir Caner. "If we are wrong in our understanding of the Islamic scriptures, we would be happy to be corrected."

The specific Hadith citation concerning Muhammad's relationship with the young girl is in volume 7, book 6, number 64 and 65, said Ergun Caner. (Both Emir and Ergun Caner were Sunni Muslims who became Christians in 1982.)

"The comments in question cannot be considered bigotry when they come from Islamic writings," Ergun said during a press conference hosted by Baptist Press in St. Louis.

A lengthy passage from the Hadith, volume 1, book 1, chapter 1, shows that Muhammad himself believed he was under demonic influence, but it notes that Muhammad's wife is the one who deemed his experience as "divine," said Ergun.

Concerning terrorism and Islamic jihad, Emir noted differential interpretations by Muslims themselves. Some see jihad as a "spiritual war," while others see it as meaning "physical," he said.

"Some Muslims want to allegorize their own scriptures because they don't want to defend jihad," Emir said. "But if you take the Koran at its word, or Muhammad at his word, then you'll find physical jihad." In fact, he noted, the highest level of Muslim heaven – which has 70 perpetual virgins on couches – is reserved for Muslims who "shed their blood" (Hadith 135). Islam's inclination toward violence, he added, also is reflected in the Koran: "Slay the enemy where you find him" (Surah 9.92).

Dr. Vines was simply pointing out these distinctions. Since the media so often treats the Muslim religion with utter reverence – something we Baptists are unfamiliar with – he felt it was important that SBC members understand these distinctions. If those in the media were doing their jobs, Dr. Vines would never have felt it necessary to point out these disquieting elements of an enigmatic religion.

Ergun Caner observed an element of hypocrisy in the quest to portray Islam as a peaceful religion: "A so-called Christian who bombs an abortion clinic or shoots an abortionist and says God told him to do it does that act against the Bible," he said. "But the Muslim who commits acts of violence in jihad does so with the approval of Muhammad. … When Sept. 11 happened, we were all shocked. But where was the international outrage when jihad killed 3 million people (Christian people, I might add) in Sudan?"

A major element in the SBC – under the leadership of newly elected president Dr. Jack Graham – will be that of "Empowering Kingdom Growth." This major ministry initiative encourages SBC members to humbly seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. This means we will accelerate our efforts to take the Gospel to all people – including Muslims. We do not do this as a form of "hate," as some charge. We do this because we want others to know the peace that comes solely through a relationship with Jesus Christ: "For He Himself is our peace …" (Ephesians 2:14).

Among other actions, SBC messengers also called for churches and civil authorities to hold accountable clergy members guilty of sexual abuse. Another resolution calls for President Bush to place a "high priority" on enacting a ban on partial-birth abortion. And the SBC's North American Mission Board challenged members to consider their personal role in the "Go" part of the Great Commission by personally participating in mission trips during 2003.

The Southern Baptist Convention is a denomination of 16 million people who are serious about their calling to be representatives of Jesus Christ. While we do not maintain the kind and gentle treatment that most other socially-acceptable denominations enjoy, we are committed to boldly speaking truth in love to the peoples of this world.

And I am gratified to have a part in this great effort.
worldnetdaily.com



To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2099)10/4/2002 12:09:30 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2926
 
Falwell: Intent not to attack Muhammad
Baptist pastor stirs U.S. Muslims, calls Islam's prophet 'terrorist'
October 4, 2002
By Art Moore
In an interview with WorldNetDaily, Rev. Jerry Falwell said his characterization of Islam's prophet Muhammad as a terrorist in a segment on the next edition of "60 Minutes" was not intended to antagonize Muslim people.

"I think Muhammad was a terrorist. I read enough, by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war," Falwell tells interviewer Bob Simon, according to a CBS promo of the program to be aired this Sunday night.

"My intent was not to attack Muhammad," Falwell told WND yesterday. "I have avoided that. But [Simon] was pressing me on the issue of Muhammad's behavior, his involvement in war, and I simply said what I do believe, that Muhammad is not a good example for most Muslim people."

One of the most outspoken and controversial Islamic political action groups in the United States immediately issued a statement on Falwell's comments, which gained wide attention through the Drudge Report yesterday.

"What concerns us the most is the complete failure of mainstream religious and political leaders to repudiate this kind of anti-Muslim hate speech," said Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, in Washington, D.C. "On the issue of bigotry, silence equals consent."

Falwell told WND, in response to the inevitable backlash from Muslim groups, that his comments were not directed at the Muslim people.

"I do not believe for a moment that the vast majority of Muslims are terrorists," said the Baptist pastor, chancellor of Liberty University in Virginia and a WorldNetDaily columnist. "I think just the opposite. Muslims have radical extremists just like every religious group does, who do not represent them very well. I think Osama bin Laden, Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein are prime examples of those kinds of radicals."

Muslim people are good people, Falwell said.

"The Muslim people genuinely want peace for their families, who want an end to all the terrorism," he told WND.

'Ridiculed by ignorant people'

CAIR's Hooper said that Muhammad, "like the prophets Noah, Moses and Jesus, were all attacked and ridiculed by ignorant people who sought to silence their message about the oneness of God."

"These defamatory attacks did not work then, and they will not work now," Hooper said.

Falwell noted that the questions "60 Minutes" asked about Muhammad came in the context of a lengthy interview conducted during the summer on why most evangelical Christians support the state of Israel.

"In the process of the interview [Simon] asked what I thought about Muhammad," Falwell explained. 'I said I have read both Muslim and non-Muslim biographers on Muhammad – of course he lived hundreds of years ago – but they all seem to uniformly agree that he was a man of war and man of violence. And today he would probably be associated with Arafat and Saddam Hussein as a terrorist. Killing people didn't bother him.

Falwell said he told Simon that Jesus and Moses stood in contrast to that.

"Their's was a model of love," he said. "So I would say that you cannot equate Islam with Christianity and Judaism."

In his statement, Hooper "encouraged people of all faiths to read objective books about the prophet Muhammad so that they will not be vulnerable to anti-Muslim rhetoric and stereotypes."

The CAIR spokesman also recommended that American libraries make sure they are a part of his group's "Library Project" to "give readers access to fair and balanced materials about Islam."

Falwell emphasized that he hasn't read any biography that disagrees with his assessment of Muhammad.

'Demon-possessed pedophile'?

Last summer, Falwell defended Southern Baptist pastor Jerry Vines of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Fla., who declared at the denomination's convention that Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile" and that Islam teaches the destruction of all non-Muslims.

Falwell said Vines, who once served as Southern Baptist Convention president, based his statement on passages from the Hadith, revered by Muslims as the sayings of Muhammad. Volume 1, book 1, chapter 1 shows that Muhammad himself believed he was under demonic influence. Another Hadith passage says Islam's prophet married a 9-year-old girl.

In response to Vines' remarks, CAIR called on President Bush and Christian and Jewish leaders to repudiate the "hate-filled, Islamophobic" remarks.

CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad once worked for the Islamic Association of Palestine, considered by U.S. intelligence officials to be a front group for Hamas operating in the United States. CAIR's leaders, including Hooper, have gone on record with their ultimate hope of the U.S. becoming a Muslim country.

The CBS news program Sunday night also includes an interview with one of the leading evangelical supporters of Israel, Ed McAteer, dubbed "godfather of the religious right" by the Washington Post.

McAteer told WorldNetDaily that he "wouldn't disagree" with Falwell's assessment of Islam's prophet.

Muhammad was instrumental in the development of "children killing themselves for the sake of what his followers" believe, McAteer said.

"He laid the foundation for what's happening in Jerusalem now," said McAteer, who helped launch the Moral Majority in the late 1970s.
worldnetdaily.com