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To: Lane3 who wrote (60877)10/3/2002 11:53:02 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
No,there is no "evolving out" of the duty model, that I can see, because one will always base moral notions on social expectations that one has learned, and these expectations will always define a minimum of acceptable behavior.



To: Lane3 who wrote (60877)10/3/2002 12:30:46 PM
From: The Philosopher  Respond to of 82486
 
OK. So the source is the status quo, society's sense of morality at any given
time, having evolved.


But, Karen, you also have to ask him WHICH society? There are many societies. The family is the first one, obviously; it has its set of "duties." Then there's the play group, which has another set of "duties," some of which may be incompatible with the home society "duties." (I'll stop putting duties in quotes from now on, but read them that way please.) Then one gets into school, then church, the little league, then peer groups, then college, then the workplace. And along the way, one is a member of a town, a county, a state, a country, and the world, all with yet more duties, again many in conflict with each other. And there is the unstructured society grouping with its duties, such as that of tipping which we are now expected to embrace even if we were brought up with parents who taught us never to tip. We are expected by Neo to abandon that value learned at our mother's knee and substitute a duty taught by -- who??

My head is ringing with this cacaphony of duties!

There is this seething mass of duties to so many different