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To: PCSS who wrote (1841)10/3/2002 6:13:26 PM
From: The Duke of URLĀ©  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4345
 
I am surprised that dell is doing so well, not necessarily grosswise, but incomewise, but there is still hope that hpq is the right way to go, although dell's progress is scary.

It is possible to justify dells progress to say that they are eating the lunch of the white box guys and are taking gtw to the cleaners.

Now I want you all too take this with a grain of salt. I am somewhat skilled in analyzing businesses.

It occurs to me that dell is burying their advertising costs and not reflecting them presently. This is only a feeling, but I am usually right. Just as I am usually right about companies like Enron.

I think dell has Bought their new found gross. True they have made very good use of intels advance in processors, but the add budget is awesome.

I would guess they are capitalizing some of these expenses to be added to the server business later and over time.

I don't know, I don't follow Dell but a review of the last years quarterlies would be helpful, although not necessarily determinative.

Just noodlin' now.



To: PCSS who wrote (1841)10/3/2002 7:33:10 PM
From: The Duke of URLĀ©  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4345
 
Note, just another brick in the wall. The last part of the article says, emc countersued the same day, all that means is that they were in negotiations and both saw they were failing and both began to prepare their respective suits.

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EMC warns; layoffs on the way

By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
October 3, 2002, 3:35 PM PT

EMC plans to cut its work force by 7 percent and doesn't expect to meet its goal of profitability in the second half of the year, the storage system company said Thursday.
EMC, which sells higher-end storage systems and the software used to manage them, warned that weak information technology spending has meant it needs to accelerate cost-cutting efforts. The company has been the target of IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Sun Microsystems and Hitachi Data Systems, rivals that lowered EMC's once-plump profit margins.

"The IT spending environment continues to be brutal," Chief Executive Joe Tucci said in a statement. "In fact, it got even worse at the very end of the quarter. Our third quarter was on track until late September."



For its third quarter 2002, the company expects revenue of about $1.25 billion and a loss of 2 cents per share, not including any special adjustments.

Merrill Lynch analyst Steve Milunovich had expected revenue of $1.39 billion.

In trading Thursday, EMC's shares had increased 13 cents, or 3 percent, to $5.01. But after the post-bell warning, the stock dropped 9 percent from its closing price, to $4.57.

Today's warning will be detailed when the company reports complete results Oct. 17.

The company will lay off about 1,380 people, leaving 17,000 in place, as part of new expense-reduction efforts.

Although EMC has been punished by a spending slump, it hasn't lost its aggressiveness. When HP filed a lawsuit claiming patent infringement, EMC lashed out with a countersuit the same day. And the company hasn't been afraid to cut prices deeply to curtail market-share losses, Milunovich said.