To: D.Austin who wrote (304092 ) 10/4/2002 11:43:52 AM From: JDN Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 I believe there is some truth to your post. The portion I copied below was actually realized by the founding fathers of this nation, which is why in their day only PROPERTY OWNERS could vote. Their feeling was you had to have something at stake to have the right to vote. Since the level of permitted corruption by public officials has now been set so high, this is now inexorable: future presidents - indeed, future congressmen - will promise everything to the have-nots (the non-productive), for the purpose of getting their votes. Taxes will rise to pay for the programs, but the productive citizens bearing the tax burden will quit, move away, or join the non-productive - why work? The percentage remaining to pay the taxes will be taxed more to pay for those who are no longer paying the taxes. (This has happened in every major American city.) The military - always the first program to be cut by tax and spenders - will desolve to nothing except for a force necessary to maintain domestic order, by which is meant a force necessary to contain rioting. At some point, another country will see its opening, attack, and conquer. Why attack a rotting country? The eternal answers: territory, natural resources, a people to rule. The attack will be nuclear. Russia is the obvious choice, for one additional reason: they are in even worse shape then we are, and, unlike us, they have a restless military However I feel DEMOCRACY itself has probably never been stronger in the world. Just in my lifetime I have seen it spread considerably. Communism, the other great system of govt. is retracting just as rapidly. jdn