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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2106)	10/5/2002 10:57:08 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Respond to of 2926

Nothing much has changed. Except of course, the method

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2106)	10/5/2002 11:18:09 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Respond to of 2926

The bottom line is that Asma b. Marwan was not a legitimate threat to Muhammad. She didn't scare him, she was not the leader of her tribe, and she had little or no influence. She was little more than a nuisance to him. Yet Muhammad had her murdered, again, in cold, premeditated blood. And one wonders why Muhammad didn't kill her himself? It was always easier for Muhammad to have someone else do his killing. Lots of little cowardly Muhammad's running helter skelter around the world these days.

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2106)	10/5/2002 11:37:42 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Respond to of 2926

Put the shoe on the other foot. Throughout the Mideast, there are Muslims who call America the Great Satan. These Muslims have called for the violent destruction of America. Frequently great crowds have gathered to chant "death to America, death to Reagan, or Bush, or etc.". At times these people have even murdered Americans. Now, if America, or Reagan, or Bush, etc. were to use Muhammad's standards, they would engage in killing quite a few Muslims. They would have used Islamic standards on the Muslims. But we know that the chanting of a crowd of hot-heads does not necessitate the use of violence against them. There are better ways to deal with critics and criticisms. Frequently, in the passion of youth, people do and say things they don't intend to act out, or are not able to carry out. Given time, people can change, and pursue peaceful dialog. But if one applied Muhammad's standards, American would be justified in bombing Tehran; Israel would be justified in wiping out hundreds of thousands of Arab Muslims. The only conclusion is that this lady troubled Muhammad and he wanted her silenced. Again, like Abu Afak, she was murdered in the night while she slept. What type of people murder those that sleep? Criminals.

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (2106)	10/5/2002 4:28:43 PM
From: Chris land	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

The Muslim nations have been hostile to Americans since the beginning. To expect them to ever be peaceful while still promoting the doctrines of that scourge Mohammed is folly. Tripolitan War (1801-1805), conflict between the United States and the North African state of Tripoli (now in Libya). For centuries the Muslim corsairs of North Africa either had preyed on the shipping of Christian nations or demanded tribute. The U.S. had been paying tribute since 1784, but refused to agree to an increase demanded by the pasha of Tripoli in 1801. As a result, the Tripolitans began seizing American ships, and in 1803 a U.S. naval squadron was sent to blockade the port of Tripoli. When the U.S. frigate Philadelphia was captured and taken into the harbor in February 1804, a small group of men under Lieutenant Stephen Decatur managed to reach it in a daring night raid and burn it to prevent the corsairs from using it. The war ended in 1805, when Captain William Eaton led 500 men across the desert from Alexandria and captured the Tripolitan town of Darnah. The pasha agreed to make peace, abandoning his demands for tribute but exacting a ransom of $60,000 for freeing American captives. Microsoft® Encarta® Encyclopedia 2002. © 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli we will fight our countries battles in the air, on land or sea.........