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To: i-node who wrote (152887)10/5/2002 5:08:42 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1585184
 
No, you made the claim, you find it, or I will have to accept you're a fukking liar!

I told you where to find it, idiot.


What? Hicks, can't follow thread protocol? You make a claim, you back it up, or you are a fukking liar!

You've lied before, so it wouldn't surprise me. In fact, I would say liar is your middle name!



To: i-node who wrote (152887)10/6/2002 3:06:54 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1585184
 
I never ever thought I would see the day I would agree with P. Buchanan word for word. I am in awe. This man gets it loud and clear, and says it succinctly with style.

Of course, he must be an American traitor for even thinking what he said in this article!!

God help us, if we don't stop the man in DC.


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Investor Business Daily

Article Title: "An ‘Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush "

Author: BRIAN MITCHELL

Date: 8/28/2002


Patrick J. Buchanan isn't giving up. He's left the Republican Party for good. And he isn't planning a fourth run for the White House.

But he is finally trying something fans have been telling him to do for years. He's founding a magazine.

The new, bi-weekly magazine will debut next month and be called The American Conservative. Scott McConnell, former editorial-page editor of the New York Post, will edit it. Society gadfly Taki Theodoracopulos will help with cash.

Buchanan is upbeat, about the magazine at least.

We hope to have a conservative magazine which is genuinely and authentically conservative, he said. We hope it will be sort of a rallying point for the conservatism that is really utterly unrepresented by either the K Street conservatives or the Weekly Standard, National Review, Commentary, New Republic neocons.

IBD talked with Buchanan at his home in Virginia to get a flavor for the new journal.

IBD: How are we doing in the war on terror?

Buchanan: I think the president did a bully job of diplomacy and moral leadership from September to January. The way they fought that war and won it was outstanding. It was a moral and just war, fought in a moral and just way.

But when he got into identifying an axis of evil and then threatening pre-emptive strikes against all nations that might develop the kinds of weapons we've had for the past century, he lost his focus. He has disrupted alliances. He has threatened actions that we don't have the troops in place to take.

He's asserting a right to wage pre-emptive war without the approval of Congress on any nation that aspires to build the kinds of weapons we've had since World Wars I and II. I don't think he's got the right to do that, and I think a policy of warning about pre-emptive strikes is the kind of policy that could invite pre-emptive strikes against us.


IBD:What about a war with Iraq?

Buchanan: Anybody who has a state, including Saddam Hussein, is going to be reluctant to go to war against the United States or to commit any atrocity which would put them in a war with the U.S. Containment and deterrence will work with almost any state.

Saddam is terrified of the United States. He wants to hand over his power to one of these sons of his. He's got all these palaces out there.


Why in heaven's name would he want to trigger a war with the United States of America and have all that blown to kingdom come along with him, his sons, his family, his dynasty, his army, everything?

I don't think we should give up on the policy of deterrence. It frightened Joe Stalin. It frightened Mao Tse-tung. These guys are not in that league.

IBD: What should we be doing here at home?

Buchanan: The first thing we should do is get serious about border security. Since 9-11, we've only had 411,000 illegal aliens come into the United States.

If there is a weapon of mass destruction smuggled into this country, the whole idea of global interdependence and 10,000 Mexican trucks coming into the U.S. every day, almost all of them not inspected, and over a million containers - that's going to come to an end.

It will be a very powerful argument for retiring to economic independence and economic nationalism, where you do not have thousands of people crossing your border every day. One or two more of these attacks and globalization itself is in trouble.

IBD: What will that mean for an open society?

Buchanan: I'm a believer in an open society, I'm a believer in a free society, and this is why I'm opposed to the idea of an empire. They say we need a Department of Homeland Security. I thought the Defense Department was in charge of homeland security. Apparently it's in charge of empire security.

Of what advantage is all this American empire, interfering in all these quarrels around the world, if as a consequence we lose freedom at home and live in constant danger of some kind of small atomic weapon detonated on American soil?

I think the American empire is going to go, and I think that's a good thing. The reason they were over here on 9-11 is that we are over there.


IBD: Where do you see things 10 years from now?

Buchanan: I regret that for the rest of Mr. Bush's first term, we're going to be at war. The president has subcontracted out our Middle East policy to Ariel Sharon, and I think that's a dreadful mistake.

Palestinian terrorists ought to be condemned and Israel has a right to peace, but you have to give the Palestinian people some hope. And I think Bush's (June 24) speech gives them very, very little hope. I think his speech could have been written in Tel Aviv.


IBD: Will there ever be a Palestinian state?

Buchanan: I think the question is not whether there'll be a Palestinian state. There may be two. The ultimate question is whether there's going to be a Jewish state in the Mideast. I think Ariel Sharon is leading them into a cul-de-sac from which there is no way out but back through Oslo and Tabaah and the Saudi plan.

© Investor's Business Daily, Inc. 2002.



To: i-node who wrote (152887)10/6/2002 8:12:23 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1585184
 
New England's Autumn Sugar Maples Threatened by Warmth

By JEFF DONN
.c The Associated Press

FERRISBURGH, Vt. -- Sam Cutting Sr. eases from his pickup, lumbers stiffly in blue jeans and suspenders up a hillside, and cranes his neck toward the maple grove that nearly broke his heart.

The crowns are finally spreading again. But some 3-foot-thick trunks are sheered 30 feet from the ground. Dead branches lie scattered in piles like drying bones.

Cutting's sugarbush - a syrup maker's term of endearment for his maple woods - is still recovering from an ice storm brewed four years ago during a winter thaw.

''There was so much damage, you couldn't even walk through here,'' says Cutting, the 70-year-old patriarch who remains master syrup maker of a family business now run by his son. ''I just thought: I've had it. I'm never going to sugar again.''

He was wrong. The 30-acre leased sugarbush is finally returning to its earlier seasonal output of about 300 gallons of syrup. For the Cuttings, though, it was a sour taste of what global warming from man-made greenhouse gases could do in coming generations.

''We've always had worries with the maples. I've seen bugs and drought,'' Cutting says. ''When it gets to man-made things, it's more of a worry.''

He may be right to worry. Government-sponsored researchers have found statistical evidence that cold-loving maples yield less sap in warmer winters. In keeping with that data, an Associated Press analysis of syrup production over the past eight decades shows a decline in every New England state except Maine - the only one to buck the warming trend.

There is no definitive scientific proof yet that warmer temperatures take even part of the blame. But University of New Hampshire forester Rock Barrett, who oversaw the government report, fears it may already be too late for maple country.

''I think the sugar maple industry is on its way out, and there isn't much you can do about that,'' he says.

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Syrup is the soul of Vermont.

It is said that roughly one in four Vermont trees is a sugar maple. Vermonters made almost 60 percent of New England's 850,000 gallons of syrup this year, according to federal farm data.

Every year, as winter begins to melt away, Vermont's sugarhouses come back to life. They puff thick, white smoke from stainless steel evaporators that boil sap down to syrup. Punctuated by vacuum gauges, sap-carrying plastic tubing -a technology that is replacing suspended buckets - snakes through thick woods to collection tubs. Vermont kids, as always, freeze maple treats in the snow.

In Ferrisburgh, in western Vermont about 60 miles from the Canadian border, the Cutting grandchildren are already lending a hand in the family business. But the adults wonder if it will eventually be lost to future generations.

''It would be devastating, because it has been such a strong part of our heritage,'' says Cutting's son, also named Sam.

Much of New England could lose its maple forests over the next century in favor of the more mundane terrain of oak and hickory dominant in the warmer south, according to scientists who study global warming.

Already, over recent decades, most expansion in syrup production has occurred in the north, in colder Quebec. In the last 10 years alone, yearly production there has doubled to satisfy a booming market, now eclipsing the United States fivefold, according to the North American Maple Syrup Council.

Over the last 80 years, New England's typical syrup output has dropped by more than half, from over 1.6 million gallons a year to less than 800,000, the AP analysis shows. Syrup has dwindled to a $22 million annual regional business, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Clearly, social and economic changes, including the shift from an agrarian society and the advent of popular syrup substitutes, explain much of the maple industry's contraction. But the region's average annual temperature - combined with upstate New York's - also climbed nearly 1 degree during the 20th century, possibly further depressing syrup flow. Vermont has warmed by 1.6 degrees, the climate data shows.

Only Maine has cooled, slipping a yearly average of nearly a half-degree - perhaps because of its long coast, vast forests or other differences in geography and land use. Meanwhile, Maine's syrup production has exploded from less than 12,000 gallons a year through most of the 1980s, to 230,000 gallons this year. The boom stems partly from an invasion of Quebec sugarmakers working Maine forests, but temperature may also play a part, the research suggests.

In another possible hint of the future, some New England syrup makers have noticed an earlier sugaring season over past decades. In Vermont, it now typically starts a few weeks sooner, in late February.

Without more control of man-made greenhouse gases, New England's average yearly temperature could rise by 6 to 10 degrees over the next century, according to the report sponsored last year by the federal government's Global Change Research Program.

Seemingly slight annual shifts in temperature can transform climate and landscape. After all, parts of New England were buried under 2 miles of ice about 20,000 years ago - when the annual global average temperature was just 10 to 12 degrees colder than now. The warming forecast in the next century would make Boston's climate more like today's in Richmond or Atlanta, the federal researchers say.

Their prediction unsettles Bill Eva, president of the New Hampshire Maple Producers Association. ''They make very little syrup in Virginia,'' he says.

In the 1930s, his father used to tap trees in March. Now, Eva usually drills his 2,000 or so taps during the second week of February.

''The winter weather has been interrupted, with spring ... in between,'' says Toni Pease, a sugarmaker in Oxford, N.H., who complains of reduced sap flows from such fluctuations.

Many sugarmakers are unruffled. They say that even if the predictions are right, changes will unfold gradually over decades, with limited effects on them or their children.

''I haven't really seen any deterioration in the health of our trees because of warm weather, and I haven't seen any real decline in sap production,'' says third-generation mapleman Hank Peterson, of Londonderry, N.H. ''It's the old Yankee saying that 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.'''

Also, many New Englanders make syrup only for a second income. They are primarily dairy farmers. The Cutting family owns two stores and sells smoked meats, cheeses and many other products.

But a cooler climate gives New England more than syrup. It discourages forest insect pests like the maple-loving pear thrip. Researchers also say that warming promotes tree-damaging weather extremes like storms and drought.

''Trees are very much stressed all the time. You add a little bit more stress, like acid rain or ozone or just temperature differences, and they become weakened and ... susceptible to diseases,'' says Hub Vogelmann, a retired botanist from the University of Vermont who has studied maple damage.

Fewer, more sickly sugar maples will mute fall colors, says the federal report. ''The sugar maple puts the fire in the New England fall color,'' says biologist Adam Markham, who is director of the environmental group Clean Air-Cool Planet, in Portsmouth, N.H.

The prospects make Mary Bargiel uneasy. A Miami transplant who now runs an inn in Vergennes, Vt., she typically fills her 13 rooms with tourists during the six-week foliage season.

''I'm always disappointed when people come up and, even in its peak, it's not the best color,'' she says.

Then there's that 150-year-old behemoth of a sugar maple hulking outside her office. Maybe it's just getting old, but she has noticed faded colors. ''I can see what could happen,'' she says.

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Gerald Pease, the husband of the sugarmaker in Oxford, N.H., has been sugaring for more than 60 years and thinks too many trees are now dying.

Yet he tends to shrug it off. ''You might be concerned,'' he says, ''but what the hell can you do about it?''

Political pressure is slowly building, though.

New England governors and Eastern Canadian premiers have set a goal of reducing the region's greenhouse gas output to at least 10 percent below 1990 emissions by the year 2020. Activists are pressing for more fuel-efficient cars and cleaner energy generation.

Even in Quebec, where sap still gushes like Texas oil, there is disquiet.

''We could lose the industry totally,'' says Luc Lussier, a Quebec syrup distributor who is president of the North American Maple Syrup Council.

Lussier says the industry can't keep migrating north. About 50 miles past the St. Lawrence River, sugar maples give way to other trees.

In the end, he suspects the forest, not its inhabitants, will set the rules.

AP-ES-09-26-02 0914EDT

Copyright 2002 The Associated Press.