To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (5096 ) 10/6/2002 6:42:39 PM From: X Y Zebra Respond to of 57110 unions effected the decimation of our manufacturing base. once co's make the capital expenditures to set up shop overseas it is next to impossible to bring them back. true, but do not discount the power of the politicians, best example was Stanley Works, (and the unions were not really involved on that one). The politicians had enough influence so to make SW changed its mind. Once the "greedy un-patriotic" label was upon them it was game over. Capital, tends to flow to the most efficient environment. As far as employing unskilled labor (and soon even skilled labor too), we know that the US is not necessarily the best place. We are reaching that point. Remember that the "moochers" can force productive people to "sacrifice" their best Ayn Rand scenarios seemed at one point extreme and radical... slowly, it is beginning to look tame in comparison to other alternatives. -g I certainly welcome to listen to alternatives. Once the great majority realizes that the market valuations that at one point made retirement so inviting, will never return... particularly when I am hearing that the Mr. Grizzly is planning to hibernate with us until 2007 - 2010 -g _______ "There is only one kind of men who have never been on strike in human history. Every other kind and class have stopped, when they so wished, and have presented demands to the world, claiming to be indispensable ---except the men that have carried the world on their shoulders, have kept it alive, have endured torture as their whole payment, but have never walked out on the human race. Well their turn has come. Let the world discover who they are, what they do and what happens when they refuse to function. This is the strike of the men of the mind." ~ John Galt. Leader and initiator of the strike of the men of the mind. From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.