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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2193)10/7/2002 7:18:31 AM
From: lorne  Respond to of 8683
 
" Across the street, a handful of pro-Bush protesters called McDermott a traitor. Mark Muhlenkort, an electrical engineer from Poulsbo, held a sign that read: "Jihad Jim loves Saddam."

Thousands protest Bush policy on Iraq

By GENE JOHNSON
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Monday, October 7, 2002
SEATTLE -- U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott, recently back from Baghdad, told about 5,000-plus peace activists at a rally Sunday that President Bush is out for blood in Iraq and it will take their efforts to stop him.

"We can let the president know he does not get a free ride on this," McDermott, D-Wash., told the crowd at a downtown rally as the activists cheered and waved signs that read "No Iraq War."

During his five-day trip to Iraq, which ended last Tuesday, McDermott suggested the president might mislead the American people about the need for war, something the White House swiftly denied. Bush has said Iraq must be disarmed to ensure the world's security.

Conservatives criticized McDermott for his comments, dubbing him "Jihad Jim" and accusing him of sympathizing with Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

When he returned to Washington, D.C., McDermott qualified his remarks, saying that he had perhaps "overstated" his case.

But the congressman showed no such contrition Sunday: "I meant what I said," he insisted in an interview with The Associated Press.

"We have a president who says ... 'I can do whatever I want in the world,'" McDermott said. "He must go through the United Nations. He must exhaust diplomatic means. He's trying to provoke the Iraqis. He wants a war."

As for the nicknames bestowed on him, McDermott said, "It's like in second grade. When you call names it's because you can't think of anything intelligent to say."

McDermott used even stronger language in a town hall meeting at the Jefferson Park Community Center on Beacon Hill, where he said Bush is moving toward an imperial presidency by denying that congressional action is required to authorize an attack on Iraq.

"And what we are dealing with right now in this country is whether we are having a kind of bloodless, silent coup or not," McDermott said.

"This president is trying to bring to himself all the power to become an emperor to create Empire America," he said. "If you go along like sheep, that is what will happen."

Sunday's downtown rally was organized by a group called "Not in Our Name," and took place in conjunction with rallies around the country over the weekend. Thousands protested Sunday in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and about 5,000 protesters gathered in Portland, Ore., on Saturday.

"This war would be a huge mistake," Seattle math teacher Jerry Gallaher, 49, said Saturday. "We'd end up killing lots of innocent people. The diplomatic solutions haven't been explored, and we don't have international support for this."

Across the street, a handful of pro-Bush protesters called McDermott a traitor. Mark Muhlenkort, an electrical engineer from Poulsbo, held a sign that read: "Jihad Jim loves Saddam."

"Go kiss him," it taunted.

Muhlenkort said there was nothing inherently wrong with McDermott's trip to Iraq, but there was something wrong with his comments there.

"It's important that we defend ourselves," he said. "Saddam might get nukes, and I'm afraid he'd use them against us or against Israel. He's got a history of irrational actions, and he's been supportive of terrorists in the past."
seattlepi.nwsource.com



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2193)10/7/2002 7:29:03 AM
From: lorne  Respond to of 8683
 
Fascism, corruption and my 'Democratic' Party

My awakening
When I read about people spitting on the Honor Guard at the New York State Democratic Convention May 16, I started to understand what has happened to my party over the last few years. I still can't get over the fact that Democrats attending a formal convention would so insult the American flag, but it happened. As an Honor Guard of Albany police officers entered the convention hall - with band playing and lights shining - they were spit on and called "Nazis" by a number of people on the delegate floor. On top of that, no Democrat nearby stopped the "spitters," or even reported them. And the Democratic leadership expressed no public outrage.

I was so outraged at my party's lack of outrage that I started a reward fund to find the "spitters." But I soon realized that I needed to address the larger issue of what I had come to understand. I direct this commentary to the mainstream elected officials of my party - the "adults" as the media often calls them. Whether you are still in office or retired, you can have a profound effect in waking up the party and the public. I see clearly now that the path the party is taking will eventually lead to its destruction and to the destruction of liberty in America. It is practically mathematical. And it won't take very long in years if nothing is done to stop it.

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worldnetdaily.com



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2193)10/7/2002 10:32:39 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8683
 
So Jeb = a Panhandle 'Huey Long', eh?

Interesting take, but remember, Huey is still remembered fondly in some quarters - and despised in others.

A real polarizing figure.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2193)10/8/2002 8:27:06 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8683
 
Well, you're certainly an expert on creeps.