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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (61613)	10/8/2002 2:17:01 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

That was the meat of my post. Sorry, I'm still stuck on trying to disabuse you of your continued assumptions that the world will crumble absent a moralistic approach. And I'm running out of steam. But I will answer your question. I don't see any value in being an inmate at Auschwitz. There's is absolutely nothing worthwhile in being a victim. If I'm going to die, I'd rather be the commandant and go down trying to reform the system. No, it would not be possible for me to be a commandant who supports the system. "Mistakes were made": someone has to step up and take the heat sometime, Here is another example, a perfect one, of what I perceive you've been doing throughout this discussion, which is jumping to the bogeyman rather than dealing with what I'm actually saying. There is plenty of room between "blame" and "mistakes were made." I talked earlier about acknowledging responsibility. That does not mean "mistakes were made." It means "I (or you or someone) made a mistake." And that mistake, if it is important, needs to not happen again. And making a commitment to not let it happen again. Then, if the mistake occurs again, it is no longer a "mistake" but a breach of contract. Yes, someone needs to step up and take the "heat." But the heat consists of assuring that it doesn't happen again, and making restitution, if warranted, not saying an Act of Contrition and doing a penance. If it were your brother's wedding, and absent a major breach, I would say you are presumptively obligated, assuming you can afford the trip and get away from work, whether you like weddings or not........ I have been to two weddings in my life. One was mine and the other my sister-in-law's. You're right. I was obligated to attend hers. For everyone else, the message is that I don't do weddings. I do go to funerals, though, although I detest them almost as much. That is because I think that attendance at a funeral is important to the bereaved at that especially difficult time. One less at a wedding cannot reasonably matter all that much.