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To: maceng2 who wrote (196349)10/9/2002 4:55:34 AM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
btw. Historical note on UK during the 70's.

During the 1970's Britain's economy was in a terrible state. The unions were all powerful and strikes were an everyday occurrence. Big pay rises and out of control inflation. The unions only cared about themselves, as bad as any grasping city financiers.

Another problem though. Management of companies got the unions they deserved. For example: If they had a problem with a product line, and was not selling, a management trick was to instigate a strike by mistreating some workers. Thus the relationship between unions and management fell to all time lows.

Then we had mass unemployment and our heroine Maggie Thatcher, the Union Smasher, took the reins of power. The handbag was swung ruthlessly -g-



To: maceng2 who wrote (196349)10/9/2002 7:31:05 AM
From: bruceleroy1_-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Now the companies will have an obvious convenient excuse for missing on this quarter's earnings. They can blame everything on the dock workers' situation.



To: maceng2 who wrote (196349)10/9/2002 8:34:45 AM
From: Ahda  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
It was a lock out. i.e. the management were not happy with the "go slow" and the refusal on productivity and technology deals. They choose the timing.

Tis a political mess because people choose to tie politics into that which is pure and simple congestion. We import more every day and we don't have the mechanism in place to unload what is coming in. Solution is to improve the technology but the concerns are less jobs and less wages which isn't the problem,

The problem is we have to be able to unload cargo at a more rapid rate. That might just mean having to build a new up to date port. This isn't the Auto industry there is no one in competition with these people. There are very few jobs as secure as this area of the economy.

This tech is mechanics that have to be put into place as we are a nation who each days relies more on imports than internal production.



To: maceng2 who wrote (196349)10/9/2002 9:52:35 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
It was a lock out. i.e. the management were not happy with the "go slow" and the refusal on productivity and technology deals. They choose the timing.


If management decided to pay the dockworkers half of what they have agreed to pay and the dockworkers then decided to walk, would you consider that a strike? And that the dockworkers chose the timing?