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To: sandintoes who wrote (29103)10/9/2002 10:15:07 PM
From: calgal  Respond to of 59480
 
Congress Moves Steadily Toward Iraq Vote

URL: foxnews.com

Wednesday, October 09, 2002

WASHINGTON — The Senate experienced two unusual events Thursday relating to the debate on a resolution authorizing action against Iraq: for one, senators showed up. Two, the lead guardian of the Senate's rules asked that they be broken.

Wednesday's debate was widely attended in the Senate, which is a switch from the usual scene where dramatic performances are given in front of near-empty chambers. Lawmakers only have a few days until the Senate votes on whether to give President Bush broad authority to take military action, if necessary, to prevent Iraq from building weapons of mass destruction.

The attendance was put to good use by those on both sides of the Iraq question since debate indeed occurred. It also provided a forum for Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., to beg his colleagues to break Senate rules and delay a crucial test vote on the resolution scheduled for Thursday.

Sensing imminent defeat of measures to oppose the resolution, Byrd, who is the Senate's greatest defender of the Constitution and Senate rules, said that too much rests on the decision for it to be made so quickly.

"I'm asking that in this peculiar, unique situation involving so much of country's treasure in blood and dollars, I'm asking that senators join with me in putting off the decision," he said.

Byrd suggested that the weeks of debate so far have not been enough, and implied that those ready to vote now were rash and indifferent to the potential human cost.

AP
Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif.
"I make my plea on behalf of moms and dads and grandparents of this country, the fate of whose daughters and grandchildren hinges on a vote for cloture, shutting off debate," Byrd said.

Proponents of the resolution, including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a former prisoner of war, would have none of it.

"Nobody in this body has any priority or any franchise on America's young men and women," McCain said.

The Senate's discourse was measured compared to the exchange in the House, where California Democratic Rep. Pete Stark also departed from the chamber's usual decorum.

"We have a president who thinks foreign territory is the opponent's dugout, and Kashmir is a sweater," Stark said in reference to the disputed territory between India and Pakistan. "Is the president's need for revenge for the threat once posed to his father enough to justify the death of any American? Rich kids wont pay. Their daddies will get them deferments, as big George did for George W."

President Bush has not been shy to say that Saddam's evil can be measured by his willingness to try to assassinate "my dad," President George H.W. Bush. Nonetheless, the presiding officer issued a rebuke to Stark that it is against congressional rules to refer to the president in personal terms.

Stark wasn't the sole Democrat in opposition of the resolution. Rep. David Bonior, D-Mich., who likes to mention his service in Vietnam, in which he served as a cook in Los Angeles, said he saw enough to know that "war destroys lives in such a profound way."

Neither of them was reading off the script handed out from Democratic political operatives James Carville and Bob Shrum, who gave House Democrats a step-by-step poll-tested guide to voting on the war resolution.

The memo, obtained by Fox News, is an attempt to teach Democrats how to speak about the war so as not to alienate their voting base.

"A Democratic supporter of an Iraq resolution is most compelling and strongly preferred to a Republican supporter when he or she gives strong voice to certain reservations about this operation -- the need for allies who will share costs, concern about increased instability and neglect of the war on terrorism," the memo reads.

"In order to maintain Democratic morale, it is critical that Democratic supporters of this resolution be articulate about their reservations as 34 percent of the Democrats in the country want to vote for a Democrat opposed to authorizing force," it says.

Despite the risk of offending their constituents, key Democratic lawmakers Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada, who is the Senate Majority Whip, and John Kerry of Massachusetts, a potential presidential candidate, got behind the president on Thursday.

Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., who warned against rushing to war, also said that he would support the bottom line.

The House is expected to vote on -- and pass by a wide margin -- the resolution on Thursday. That same day, the Senate will hold a cloture vote that, if it passes, will limit debate and allow for a final vote by the end of the week.

Fox News' Major Garrett contributed to this report.



To: sandintoes who wrote (29103)10/10/2002 11:20:05 AM
From: Tadsamillionaire  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
G.O.P. Inquiry Lists Gifts to Clintons in White House
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

WASHINGTON, Oct. 9 — Denise Rich, Malcolm S. Forbes, Nelson Mandela and other friends and supporters of the Clintons showered the couple with roughly $1 million in previously unreported gifts during the Clinton presidency, according to documents released by Republican Congressional investigators.

The gifts vary from tens of thousands of dollars in jewelry, rugs and furnishings to a $90,000 framed handwritten letter by President Harry S. Truman, a $10,000 Mickey Mantle trading card from 1952 and nine rare books, according to the documents.

The gifts were not disclosed by the Clintons because the couple turned them over to Bill Clinton's presidential library, the investigators said. Under federal law, gifts that the first family do not keep for themselves are exempt from the public disclosure requirement on presidential gifts, the investigators said.

The findings are contained in a 319-page report that provides a detailed account of gifts that the Clintons received in the White House. The report was compiled after a months-long inquiry by Republican investigators on a House Government Reform subcommittee.

Responding to the report, James E. Kennedy, a spokesman for Mr. Clinton, said: "This story is so old, it's not just dated, it's carbon-dated."

Philippe Reines, speaking for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, also dismissed the report, saying, "Despite a concerted effort to turn a partisan preoccupation into a gift that keeps on giving, there is nothing new here."

The findings, compiled from information contained on the White House gift database, were released this morning during a meeting of the full committee. The report was commissioned by Representative Doug Ose, a California Republican, who is seeking to build support for legislation he has proposed to tighten the rules on gifts to presidents.

He suggested that the people who gave these gifts to the Clintons could have been trying to gain access to the White House and influence the administration's policy decisions.

In February the committee issued a preliminary report in which investigators detailed nearly $400,000 in gifts that the Clintons took with them upon leaving the White House. But the report said that the Clintons underestimated the value of dozens of those gifts.

The February report also said the Clintons did not report dozens of the gifts because their value was set below the threshold for reporting gifts on disclosure statements. The threshold was $250 from 1993 to 1998, and $260 from 1999 on.

The report released today contains a new round of potentially embarrassing information. It documents an array of gifts that the Clintons received and the names of the people who gave those gifts.

There was a $2,000 bronze statue of an angel from Denise Rich; a $9,000 hand-woven Navajo chief's blanket (circa 1885) from Larry Rockefeller; and an oil painted in a gilt frame, a cheese plate, a porcelain teapot, a gold cross and other items totaling $6,000 from Nelson Mandela.

Then there were other gifts that investigators say the Clintons may have used before donating them to the presidential library: nine custom-made tuxedo and dress shirts worth $900 from Walter and Selma Kaye; and four purses worth $8,680 from the handbag designer Judith Leiber.

The report also shows that the former first family received gifts from individuals who were at the center of the Clinton White House campaign finance scandals. To investigators and others, that suggests that the gifts became another avenue for influencing the administration.

There was a $2,100 sculpture of a goddess on a wooden base given by James Riady, an Indonesian businessman who pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations last year and agreed to pay $8.6 million in fines for using foreign corporate money to back Mr. Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. The Clintons also received two sculptures worth $1,550 from Johnny Chung, who was at the center of a 1996 campaign fund-raising investigation.

The report prompted sharp criticism from government-reform advocates, who said the Clintons acted inappropriately if not illegally, by not reporting the gifts.

"It's a serious allegation if it's true," said Gary Ruskin, the director of the Congressional Accountability Project, a watchdog group. "The least you can say is that they are trying to evade gift reporting."

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