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To: Ilaine who wrote (51226)	10/11/2002 5:14:06 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi CobaltBlue; Re: "Turkey offers bases if US foots the bill" This is the usual BS article. Here's the problems with it: (1) The bill they're talking about is 100 billion dollars. The US is simply not going to agree to pay that. That would be something like $400 per US citizen, or $1600 per family of four, LOL. If anything, what Turkey is saying is that the US can't afford to pay Turkey to join up. (2) As usual, there are no direct quotes from any Turkish "diplomats" that offer support for a war. Going to TurkishPress.com finds no change in previous Turkish policy. Recent articles that mention an attack on Iraq are as follows: Ildem: An Operation Which Is Not Based On International Legitimacy Can't Be Accepted TurkishPress.com, October 6, 2002 Presidential Foreign Affairs Chief Adviser Tacan Ildem said regarding the Iraqi issue that ''an operation which is not based on international legitimacy can't be accepted.'' turkishpress.com Gurel: United States Has Not Made A Request For Use Of Bases In Turkey TurkishPress.com, October 6, 2002 turkishpress.com Ecevit: Military Operation Against Iraq Is Not Necessary TurkishPress.com, October 6, 2002 Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said, ''I don't think that a military operation against Iraq is necessary when there are not any concrete evidences''. ... Stating that the United States was facusing on possibility of strike by Iraq mostly on countries around it, Ecevit said, ''developments should be evaluated in the right way. Since early 1990s, we have granted the United States the authority to use Incirlik but under Turkey's control, of course. As a result of this, the United States actually has the opportunity to closely monitor developments in Iraq. So I don't think that a military operation against Iraq is necessary when there are not any concrete evidences. Actually, this is debated also in the United States.'' ... turkishpress.com Hatiboglu: We Can't Remain Silent TurkishPress.com, October 6, 2002 Felicity Party (SP) Parliamentary Group Deputy Chairman Yasin Hatiboglu said on Sunday that there was currently an attempt to found a state in Northern Iraq and to change the geography of that region. ''And the United States and Europe are supporting this attempt as they have dreams about this region. We cannot remain silent to this,'' he said. ... turkishpress.com Ecevit: It Seems That Envisagements Toward Military Operation Against Iraq Extremely Excite And Please Kurdish Clans TurkishPress.com, October 8, 2002 Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said on Tuesday that, ''it seems that envisagements toward military operation against Iraq extremely excite and please Kurdish clans and groups in Northern Iraq. This of course causes concern for us.'' ... Ecevit said Turkey was against this war, and that it could not get rid of the serious effects of a war. ... turkishpress.com What appears to be going on is that Turkey's accounting of the costs of the Gulf War are being incorrectly interpreted as requests for blood money that must be paid before Turkey will sign up for another one. But this interpretation requires that we assume that Turkey's foreign policy is driven by monetary reasons only. Funny that the same people who make these assumptions are typically the ones that ascribe to the Bush administration no partisan political motives. -- Carl